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09-12-2015 , 09:07 AM
Hello, i play nl6 at 888 and there are some really aggresive regs.
I dont think they play well, but here is a graph from one, he has noshodwonwinngs.

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Some very extreme value he has.
First of all he plays like 36/24/8

He is 3-betting SB against BU 15% and against CO until now 8.

But here it is, he opende only 9% from SB !

And the most extreme value he has is, that he 3-bet the BB against SB 40% of the time, 8 from 20.

He openraises dont go very up to the bu, he folded to resteals like 3 from 5 times until now.

Cbet flop 72%, CBet turn 58% seems a lot.

He coldcall on MP-BU over 20%.

He sometimes has weired lines with air like here.

The other players is vladikiller, the other reg at my site.

888 Poker - $0.06 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 63 BB (VPIP: 38.79, PFR: 12.12, 3Bet Preflop: 4.84, Hands: 171)
UTG: 66.67 BB (VPIP: 27.63, PFR: 9.87, 3Bet Preflop: 1.89, Hands: 160)
Hero (MP): 187.5 BB
CO: 132.67 BB (VPIP: 28.66, PFR: 22.29, 3Bet Preflop: 8.77, Hands: 161)
BTN: 66.67 BB (VPIP: 23.75, PFR: 8.75, 3Bet Preflop: 3.23, Hands: 82)
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 17.50, PFR: 13.75, 3Bet Preflop: 3.85, Hands: 81)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T 5

fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) 6 6 J
BB checks, CO bets 4.83 BB, BB calls 4.83 BB

Turn: (16.17 BB, 2 players) 2
BB bets 12 BB, CO calls 12 BB

River: (40.17 BB, 2 players) 6
BB bets 43.17 BB, CO calls 43.17 BB

BB shows 3 A (Three of a Kind, Sixes)
(Pre 33%, Flop 13%, Turn 7%)
CO shows K K (Full House, Sixes full of Kings)
(Pre 67%, Flop 87%, Turn 93%)
CO wins 119.17 BB


He has WWSF over 50%, a thing i would like to have to.

His AF is over 10

He called a 4-bet from SB in BB with AJs

So what to do in SB against him i might ask, lets assume this is variance to, he only 3 bet like 30% (only).
What is he

I raise one hand in SB against him, seemed to be right, dont ?

He made a click it back 4-bet, ugly.

888 Poker - $0.06 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 100.67 BB (VPIP: 39.51, PFR: 16.62, 3Bet Preflop: 8.09, Hands: 380)
UTG: 144 BB (VPIP: 37.04, PFR: 14.81, 3Bet Preflop: 8.00, Hands: 55)
MP: 176.67 BB (VPIP: 29.01, PFR: 24.15, 3Bet Preflop: 11.22, Hands: 640)
CO: 117.5 BB (VPIP: 23.40, PFR: 16.60, 3Bet Preflop: 3.57, Hands: 275)
BTN: 51.33 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
Hero (SB): 100 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8 A

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB raises to 7.5 BB, Hero raises to 16.67 BB, BB raises to 25.83 BB, fold

BB wins 33.33 BB


He seems to fastplay it good hands like sets he 3-bets to c/r on dry board.

Now we have to look what this 8 from 20 times mean, but surely its not only 3%, i saw him only one time haveing AA and on time AJs,

I just looked propability for if he is raising like 10% in BB is for 8 from 20 and 9 from 20 about 0.04% and this few 10 from 20 and more shoulnt affect alot, because its even more unlikely.

For 15% its like 0.45 % for 8 from 12, putting all together for the rest is not more then 0.6% (because 9 from 12) is 0.85/0.15 6 times more unlikely.
Shold be about 1/6 + 1/36 and so on so put 1/5 more to the 0.45

0.54%

So propably he raises like 20-35 % against SB.

For a 30% range the change is 20% yet that he has this value after 20 hands.

So what to do, which hands should we call, which should we 4-bet in SB against him ?
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09-12-2015 , 09:35 AM
don't post someones graph.. rather post his stats

here are some ideas

one way to easy exploit him is to tighten up ...
and let him bluff off his stacks postflop

you could also try :

if he is 3b a lot , you need to start 4b light (idk what his fold to 4b is, and that should be very useful stat) and calling 3b in position more

vs 72% cbet raising a lot of his cbets as his range is probably not gonna be able to defend enough (check his fold vs raise flop and turn)

slowplaying more if he is barreling a lot..

sb v bb tighten up and be prepared to 4b/call wide value range (if he is 5b a lot/not folding to 4), also you could have limping sb strategy but that's another story
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09-12-2015 , 11:18 AM
Fold to Fcbet raise so far 1 of 4 (to small sample)
I think bluffing this guy is horrible if he has some hand.
There is another guy also cbet like hell and i made some good float yesterday with AJo in position in 3-bet pot.
This guy is quite bad, but some plays of him seems to work, also the sample is to small.
It would be also an idea even if difficult to call some of his BB 3-bets oop.
But i think i cant play vs him without huge variance and rake.

I also mentioned in general, that my Flop cbets are more then 50% folds.
So i should consider cbetting more even with air.
Sure i could just call him down all the time with my monsters, but is this enouph ?
Im not really sure, why he is folding so less to 4-bets until now, but seems he brokes very light.
Other guy is even more cbetting, over 80% and on turn only 40%, so i think against this guy hu you should consider floating on many boards even without Equity, but he dont seems to be able to boardread, otherwise he wouldnt cbet this much, of course there are some bad cbets to.
But against some of theese very loose fishes he can cbet every hand because their range is so wide and they have to fold lot.
Some are calling very thin flop and broke with second par but some fold enouph.
My cbet is to low for this field, about 59%.

Now i saw few hands, i think to play stricty for value against him, he calls of to light might be enouph to win against him.
Just open less SB should be enouph and valuebet thin against him.

If he 3-bet like 30% against SB and only broke with say 4%, you could even jamm near all your hands, he has to fold 80% of the time you win 12 bb, so you can loose the rest 48 bb, so you only need like 25% Equity.
Dont know if he is able to make a 5-bet light bluff like this clickback, but he is calling a 4-bet in position with AJs and broke on low board like here.

888 Poker - $0.06 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (UTG): 124.83 BB
CO: 101 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 22.22, Hands: 24)
BTN: 28.67 BB (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 3.03, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 33)
SB: 131.17 BB (VPIP: 28.01, PFR: 23.29, 3Bet Preflop: 10.90, Hands: 875)
BB: 60 BB (VPIP: 38.71, PFR: 15.90, 3Bet Preflop: 8.54, Hands: 447)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T 5

fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 3 BB, BB raises to 9 BB, SB raises to 22.5 BB, BB calls 13.5 BB

Flop: (45 BB, 2 players) 5 Q 8
SB bets 45 BB, BB calls 37.5 BB

Turn: (120 BB, 2 players) 8

River: (120 BB, 2 players) 3

SB shows K A (One Pair, Eights)
(Pre 69%, Flop 86%, Turn 86%)
BB shows A J (One Pair, Eights)
(Pre 31%, Flop 14%, Turn 14%)
SB wins 113 BB


It seems he ist just bad and run pretty good per EV this hands.
But if i play to tight in SB against him say only open like 10% i loose 90% of time the 0.5 bb, so i have to win the rest 5 bb, but should work of course if he 3-bets.
If he would fold to 4-bets enouph i would consicer constructing a range of all A with 4-bet/fold the weak and a call 3-bet range about 66-99 and a broke range about AQs,AK,TT+, but he didnt fold or they folded to much, so i have not much 4-bet pots of him.

I saw him cold 4-bet broke with AQ other guy had KQ lol.

Lol he has no Foldbutton.

888 Poker - $0.06 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 110.83 BB (VPIP: 64.58, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 48)
SB: 80.83 BB (VPIP: 39.94, PFR: 17.53, 3Bet Preflop: 9.82, Hands: 318)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

SB calls 0.5 BB, BB checks

Flop: (2 BB, 2 players) 5 J 2
SB bets 2 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Turn: (6 BB, 2 players) 6
SB bets 6 BB, BB raises to 12 BB, SB calls 6 BB

River: (30 BB, 2 players) A
SB checks, BB bets 22.5 BB, SB calls 22.5 BB

BB shows 3 4 (Straight, Six High)
(Pre 36%, Flop 37%, Turn 100%)
SB mucks 8 5 (One Pair, Fives)
(Pre 64%, Flop 63%, Turn 0%)
BB wins 70.67 BB

Last edited by philkill; 09-12-2015 at 11:30 AM.
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