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NL50z AJ top straigt. NL50z AJ top straigt.

03-16-2015 , 05:36 PM
Unknown opp. Should i call or better fold here?

    Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 2 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #35486061

    Hero (SB): $54.23 (108.5 bb)
    BB: $58.01 (116 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with A J
    Hero raises to $1.50, BB calls $1

    Flop: ($3) 4 T K (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $1.50, BB calls $1.50

    Turn: ($6) 2 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $3, BB calls $3

    River: ($12) Q (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $9, BB raises to $52.01 and is all-in, Hero ?




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    NL50z AJ top straigt. Quote
    03-16-2015 , 07:54 PM
    I would bet flop larger, not a huge deal on this board though. I think checking turn makes more sense with this hand, but I would also bet larger on turn if you're going to bet. Kinda sux but fold river, we have a pure bluffcatcher and not a particularly good one.
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    03-16-2015 , 08:12 PM
    Checking back flop is probably best too. This board is being pretty heavily overfolded imo. So if we care about having Ax in our betting range, which probably doesnt matter much, hands like A3dd are better.
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    03-16-2015 , 10:37 PM
    What id do in order. Pause and mutter something under my breath(ahh **** sake) click call and then either laugh or cry depending on what they showdown
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    03-17-2015 , 01:28 AM
    Fold. 50nl players do not bluff like this. Also no need to worry about overfolding here since we literally have every spade combo under the sun.
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    03-17-2015 , 06:01 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jamjam
    What id do in order. Pause and mutter something under my breath(ahh **** sake) click call and then either laugh or cry depending on what they showdown
    Yet a student of the Beast with a stoned or mentally ******ed face fails again. Master must be disappointed.
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    03-17-2015 , 11:46 PM
    PureDiesel - yawnnn
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    03-18-2015 , 02:34 PM
    this is like the worst turn card you can double barrel with your hand, well, some spades are worse but still
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    03-18-2015 , 03:48 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tobe4funas
    this is like the worst turn card you can double barrel with your hand, well, some spades are worse but still
    I disagree. I think it's perfect turn card for our hand to barrel. Why you think it is the worst ?
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    03-18-2015 , 04:13 PM
    so which action is better. Bet or check on turn? I rly like both of them
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    03-18-2015 , 04:41 PM
    Kekstash:

    I dunno math. But this board texture I would go bet bet bet(-fold) against unknown opponent very often. With bigger sizings.

    * this spesific hand this spesific board. Sry my bad english

    Last edited by Jesus420; 03-18-2015 at 04:46 PM.
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    03-19-2015 , 07:03 AM
    Think we gotta call some AJ here but I'd prefer AsJx and some AxJs and fold this specific holding
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    03-19-2015 , 10:34 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Kristalle
    Think we gotta call some AJ here but I'd prefer AsJx and some AxJs and fold this specific holding
    Firstly I'm not so sure we have to call any AJ versus 50nl population in general for this exact sizing.

    Even if we come to the conclusion that we do... I would think calling those combos that don't have the As Js in them would be more appropriate no? I mean otherwise we block most of the "logical" bluffing combos villain can have?
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    03-19-2015 , 11:31 AM
    Gotta do the math, but if we don't want to get exploited in this spot we gotta call a certain amount of hands. And I am pretty sure just calling our flush combos isn't enough here so we need to add some other hands
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    03-19-2015 , 06:10 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Kristalle
    Gotta do the math, but if we don't want to get exploited in this spot we gotta call a certain amount of hands. And I am pretty sure just calling our flush combos isn't enough here so we need to add some other hands
    I agree, I was making a case for an exploit is all.
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    03-19-2015 , 11:02 PM
    have you barreld off much in the match ?
    does he have a frequency of c/c c/c c/jam on similar textures / at all?
    How does he play his flush draws?

    answer these and youve got the info to decide what to do, more to this spot than the math imo.
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    03-20-2015 , 05:46 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by 8ball1
    have you barreld off much in the match ?
    does he have a frequency of c/c c/c c/jam on similar textures / at all?
    How does he play his flush draws?

    answer these and youve got the info to decide what to do, more to this spot than the math imo.
    Opp is unknown, so how can I answer these questions?
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    03-20-2015 , 07:09 AM
    We're in a spot with bilions of potential bluffing hands which all play really well as a bet and have far less sdv than our aj. So unless you think it's a vbet (which Id be surprised with but I guess it's somewhat possible) we shouldnt be bluffing this wide.
    that's regarding turn double barrel fwiw
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    03-20-2015 , 12:09 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by kekshtas
    Opp is unknown, so how can I answer these questions?
    well if youve zero information of any kind then villain must have zero info on you...

    so why would he check jam the river for his stack as a bluff for no reason?

    If he is a crazy and randomly spazzes out in those spots ect im sure you'll become aware of this as the match progresses and be able to capitalize.

    I dont see a need to call / to be worried about him exploiting you/ what you need to be calling with here ect!.

    In the cold light of day it costs you $13 bucks lifetime, to learn he has a river c/r range and what that means to the way you play your ranges ect
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    03-20-2015 , 01:36 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by 8ball1
    well if youve zero information of any kind then villain must have zero info on you...

    so why would he check jam the river for his stack as a bluff for no reason?

    If he is a crazy and randomly spazzes out in those spots ect im sure you'll become aware of this as the match progresses and be able to capitalize.

    I dont see a need to call / to be worried about him exploiting you/ what you need to be calling with here ect!.

    In the cold light of day it costs you $13 bucks lifetime, to learn he has a river c/r range and what that means to the way you play your ranges ect
    im gonna make a wild guess and say to win the pot?
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