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04-13-2015 , 04:10 PM

WithnoSenSe

adept

Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 754

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #35941471

Hero (BTN): $122.87 (245.7 bb)
SB: $35.93 (71.9 bb)
BB: $110.80 (221.6 bb)
UTG: $50 (100 bb)
MP: $57.12 (114.2 bb)
CO: $51.38 (102.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with K

3 folds, Hero raises to $1, SB raises to $3.50, BB folds, Hero calls $2.50

Flop: ($7.50) K

(2 players)
SB bets $4, Hero calls $4

Turn: ($15.50) T

(2 players)
SB bets $7, Hero calls $7

River: ($29.50) 6

(2 players)
SB bets $13, Hero folds

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not sure about turn, but due his size feels like call should be better than fold.

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04-13-2015 , 05:22 PM

BauerSupreme

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Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 19

You can fold turn, it's not like he's turning 2 pair or AK into a bluff there, and if he isn't value hands far outweigh the possible number of bluffs in any reasonable 3b range.

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04-13-2015 , 05:32 PM

Yoshimiii

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Is villain a fish? This is what it comes down to. Both streets

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04-13-2015 , 05:41 PM

FTWStrategy

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Originally Posted by Yoshimiii

Is villain a fish? This is what it comes down to. Both streets

no the guy playing on PokerStars in 2015 with 72bb to start the hand is a pro

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04-13-2015 , 07:21 PM

daaabatman

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Super disgusting turn but it makes it an easy fold on turn

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04-13-2015 , 07:50 PM

fr4m3ofm1nd

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fold ott

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04-13-2015 , 07:58 PM

Kounterfit

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Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 691

i dont play 50NL but i was just thinking the opposite.. hes short stacked, and only betting less than 1/2 pot on the turn and river. Kind of weak to me. wouldnt it be correct to call the $13 in a $42.50 pot w/ 2 pair?

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04-13-2015 , 08:39 PM

fr4m3ofm1nd

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Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 328

Is he sizing that makes me want to fold, but if you think that he is capable of value betting a K in this board, go ahead and call
I dont play 50nl so i might be wrong, just my opinion

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04-13-2015 , 08:47 PM

IplaySin20.4916

centurion

Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 129

our required equity to make this call is only 23%! 13/(42.5+13). the size of his turn and river raises look really weak to me and I take his short stack to mean fish. I'm doing a cringe puke call. we can be wrong 3 of 4 times and still be profitable.

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04-13-2015 , 08:53 PM

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ForeverLearning

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don't fold turn

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04-14-2015 , 12:26 AM

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wacker1913

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Why not raise this flop?

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04-14-2015 , 02:24 AM

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WithnoSenSe

adept

Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 754

yeah, villian fish most likely,only had 2 hands on him. I was planned to raise turn, flop raise is fine also, but feels like it will look bit too strong

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04-14-2015 , 02:52 AM

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z0mgtiltz

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I'd just raise flop if you told me he was an unknown fish. If he's some kinda aggro button clicker then calling is likely better (but then I'd likely call down pretty much any runout inc this one).

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04-14-2015 , 04:23 AM

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Artichokes

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Originally Posted by z0mgtiltz

I'd just raise flop if you told me he was an unknown fish. If he's some kinda aggro button clicker then calling is likely better (but then I'd likely call down pretty much any runout inc this one).

This pretty much. Vs. 72 bb guy I'm just raising flop and winning vs. his AK/AA combos

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04-14-2015 , 04:46 AM

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akaaak

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Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 128

fold turn flop can be a raise or call is fine player dependent if he's aggressive i raise him if he's passive i call

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04-14-2015 , 04:53 AM

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Yoshimiii

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Originally Posted by FTWStrategy

no the guy playing on PokerStars in 2015 with 72bb to start the hand is a pro

Different types of fish.

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04-14-2015 , 06:18 AM

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Hubedsir

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Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 704

Raise flop imo. This guy is likely to stack off here with AA, any Kx, maybe even hand like QJ also it will be eaiser to play on Q or T turn.
I think you play it fine as you just c otf.

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