nl50: Weak trips facing river shove - Micro Stakes Pot Limit and No Limit

Two Plus Two Forums Poker Strategy Online No-Limit Hold’em Cash

nl50: Weak trips facing river shove

Post Reply Subscribe

...

03-27-2008 , 09:38 PM

NameOnTheCake

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,597

I had 25 hands on villain when this hand took place, during which we had not shown down a hand. He was playing very aggressively and was up ~30bbs on me. I was actually about to quit him. I rationalized the pf call by telling myself that I'd be happy to get it in if I flop top pair, then I get there and this hand goes down. Comments on my play up to and including the river appreciated thanks

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (2 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($50.75)
Hero ($50.95)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K

, 7

.
Hero raises to $1.75, BB raises to $5.5, Hero calls $3.50.

Flop: ($10.75) K

, T

, 9

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($10.75) K

(2 players)
BB bets $4, Hero raises to $12, BB calls $8.

River: ($34.75) 4

(2 players)
BB bets $33.75 (All-In), Hero??

Quote

03-28-2008 , 02:02 AM

bussto

journeyman

Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 280

wow pretty tough spot actually. i really think your beat but not by what you'd expect. He could easily show with 10 10, 9 9, higher K maybe? The flop check throws me off as if just has like AA, but then he doesn't give up after the turn card which makes me think he has a full house. As played i dunno i guess i could fold this one actually.

Quote

03-28-2008 , 08:39 AM

NameOnTheCake

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,597

k one vote for fold...anyone else?

fwiw I like your analysis, but the pf 3 bet was nothing out of the ordinary. His flop play was a bit weird though.

Quote

03-28-2008 , 09:16 AM

mmmmkay

journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 309

i think you are beat here, either by a better K that decided you dont have a flush or flopped straight, but probably a FH (TT,99) or a good combodraw (AsQs/AsJs) that whiffed the flop checkraise for max FE

Quote

03-28-2008 , 09:27 AM

People_Mover

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 5,185

fold

Quote

03-28-2008 , 09:33 AM

Merlinius

adept

Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 865

fold

Quote

03-28-2008 , 10:06 AM

derosnec

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 14,294

weird line by villain. you show aggression on turn, which he should interpret as you liking your hand, then he open shoves river? what a bs line. but then again i can't think of what he's bluffing with here that doesn't have showdown value (unless he 3bets a lot of trash pf). honestly i think i call.

Quote

03-28-2008 , 10:31 AM

mmmmkay

journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 309

this is a perfect line for a full house (whiffed c/r flop, nuts on turn -> why would he be jamming turn) or QJ

also, any flushcombo (A9, AJ, AQ, 78) got there and tries to get some value from a K

KQ,AK would have bet flop and jammed turn

Quote

03-28-2008 , 10:42 AM

derosnec

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 14,294

it might be the perfect line, but experience-wise i never see anyone take this line at 100nl or lower on the river with a flush or fh after i raise the turn.

if it went check/check, b/c, then shove, well ok that makes sense. or if it is a regular raised pot pf (not 3bet) and it went c/c, c/c, open shove, then ok.

but, devil's advocate against myself, i don't know what he's shoving with that doesn't have showdown value if he checks. unless he thinks his AQ/AJ/AT/JT/88 doesn't have that anymore. weird hand.

Quote

03-28-2008 , 01:48 PM

#10

NameOnTheCake

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,597

Quote:

Originally Posted by derosnec

I called exactly for this reason - I just couldn't see him open shoving the nuts like that. Then again, immediately after clicking call, I thought to myself "WTF do you think you're beating?".

Quote

03-28-2008 , 02:13 PM

#11

mmmmkay

journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 309

well, what did you beat?

Quote

03-28-2008 , 06:30 PM

#12

NameOnTheCake

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,597

Villian showed 910o and mhig. Honestly, I think he played the hand only slightly worse than I did

Quote

03-28-2008 , 08:43 PM

#13

urbe

grinder

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 587

First thing i thought when i saw this hand was CALL, it looks like such an obvious bluff. I take this line a lot when i want to appear very strong. For a second there i thought i was villain honestly.

Quote

Post Reply Subscribe

...