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NL50- Unknowns bluff blank river often enough? NL50- Unknowns bluff blank river often enough?

08-30-2013 , 04:35 PM
Do you see people bluff a blank like this often enough after check-call turn? I feel like i should have bet turn and then it would be a lot more likely to get a missed flushdraw to bluff.
So would you bluffcatch river if you would bet the turn? Minimum hand you 3 barrel shove here for value?

PokerStars - $0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BB): $50.50
SB: $50.00
SB posts SB $0.25, Hero posts BB $0.50

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has 8 8

SB raises to $1.25, Hero raises to $4.50, SB calls $3.25

Flop: ($9.00, 2 players) 9 2 9
Hero bets $5.00, SB calls $5.00

Turn: ($19.00, 2 players) 5
Hero checks, SB bets $9.50, Hero calls $9.50

River: ($38.00, 2 players) 3
Hero checks, SB bets $31.00 and is all-in
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08-30-2013 , 05:33 PM
snap it off, if he's decent he can do it with worse for value and he doesnt rep a whole lot. tt+ gets in pre unless you're a nit. Because it's such a bad board to bluff he can level you into folding A-high (which is what you're repping).

I'd have this hand in my turn betting range, though.
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08-31-2013 , 08:55 AM
this is like the easiest call ever?
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08-31-2013 , 09:06 AM
Dont really see decent players bluff blank rivers in these spots. So standard would be to bet turn and check-call blank rivers to bluffcatch missed clubs?
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08-31-2013 , 03:00 PM
We don't need villain to bluff a lot to call this,he'll value bet worse.
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08-31-2013 , 05:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pyha Karu
Dont really see decent players bluff blank rivers in these spots. So standard would be to bet turn and check-call blank rivers to bluffcatch missed clubs?
Decent players always have a bluffing range. Maybe you meant nits?
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08-31-2013 , 05:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by baat
We don't need villain to bluff a lot to call this,he'll value bet worse.
I dont think VIllain is Value-Jamming 5X OTR. His river range is polarized to Missed-draws VS Value.

We only need our call to be correct 31% to BEP. And 88 is top of our river Checking range. Leaning towards a call
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09-01-2013 , 08:52 AM
Why on Earth would you want to check this turn? Are you afraid of a 9 or something? Don't be such a nit. You can get in all sorts of trouble OTR by inducing a bluff here
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09-01-2013 , 09:49 AM
So would standard be to bet turn and check-call river on a blank to bluffcatch missed clubs?

And whats the minimum you 3 barrel shove here for value?
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09-01-2013 , 05:35 PM
i'd def call, this is a 6 max game and villain might greatly overestimate his FE over small pairs

**** it this is like the exact spot you're hoping for once you 3bet 88
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09-02-2013 , 07:18 AM
Cant really fold now.
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09-07-2013 , 03:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLove_Below
I dont think VIllain is Value-Jamming 5X OTR. His river range is polarized to Missed-draws VS Value.

We only need our call to be correct 31% to BEP. And 88 is top of our river Checking range. Leaning towards a call
When said unknown,i assume mediocre reg.You probably assume weak players.That might be the reason we disagree.
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09-12-2013 , 09:22 PM
snap call.
Hes polarised and you've misrepresented your hand. Well played ???
Im not checking the turn though, try to get value from his smaller pairs / stubborn Ax hands / FDs etc and probly let him stab the river depending
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10-02-2013 , 04:22 PM
So can anyone tell me what would be the minimum you 3 barrel shove here for value vs most?
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10-07-2013 , 09:57 PM
your hand maybe
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10-07-2013 , 11:24 PM
Bet/Bet/Bet.
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