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01-16-2008 , 07:46 PM

WantToLearn

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Hi 2+2,
so here my blind steal makes top two pair on the turn.
Am I commited here?
If not, what´s your SPR to be committed here?

Reads: the main villain is 28/10/1,8 over 90 hands, the other is unknown

Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 7 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: $72.60
UTG: $9.45
UTG+1: $38.85
MP: $9.50
Hero (CO): $54.30
BTN: $54.30
SB: $22.05

Pre Flop: Hero is CO with K

3 folds, Hero raises to $2.35, BTN calls $2.35, SB calls $2.10, 1 fold

Flop: ($7.55) 2

(3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($7.55) 6

(3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $5, BTN raises to $10, SB folds, Hero = ??

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01-16-2008 , 07:53 PM

Baja15

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I would have just bet flop, as played i'm not thinking about folding. So yes i think you should be committed here

I just make it 25 and then shove any river if called.

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01-16-2008 , 08:26 PM

TheBad

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Hmm, i am not sure. Let´s ignore SPR for a moment. Villain needs a hand he thinks is good here and he called with PF. Once you call or raise turn, he will give you credit for a strong K at least. He is not going to stack off with 77/88/99/TT. Maybe with 23 or K3 ?

I like calling here a lot more than raising.

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01-16-2008 , 09:12 PM

wikemang

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call/call

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01-16-2008 , 10:58 PM

checkmate36

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Reads: the main villain is 28/10/1,8 over 90 hands, the other is unknown

Im probably thinking about this the wrong way and by discussing maybe I can learn and improve my game.

Regarding the preflop portion of the hand...
All your steal attempts go through main villian who is playing 28/10. This player probably doesn't like to fold esp when it looks like a steal. Maybe wait for a hand better than K6s or else sit in a seat where your steal will go through a tighter player.

Is this preflop play pretty standard?
Im trying to loosen my game up since Im pretty much a nit.

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01-16-2008 , 11:53 PM

Chargers In 08

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Originally Posted by checkmate36

Is this preflop play pretty standard?
Im trying to loosen my game up since Im pretty much a nit.

Depends who button/blinds are but it's should be a standard raise. If button is > 35% vpip I dump it but other than that I always raise it.

In the hand I think the flop should be bet. On the turn I think call/call is the best line because I think this is a flop he'll slowplay a set on and bet his one pair hands. Reraising is going to get him to fold his one pair hands and bluffs which obviously isn't good.

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01-17-2008 , 03:53 AM

oakrdrzfan

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I dont think SPR applies here. SPR is for the flop and your SPR is under 3 for the SB, but he isnt doing the raising. The SPR with the button is approx. 7 which isnt commitment time w/ TPTK. SPR is for better hands than TPWK.

I bet this flop. I call the raise on the turn. You fold out weaker hands with AI and get stacked by the set.

c/c river. If he pushes, then you have a more difficult decision.

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01-17-2008 , 04:00 AM

PJ94z

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Don't like a steal here with K,6 when u have a loose opponent to act behind you and has position on you. IMO, you should wait for at least K,10 maybe KJ to make this raise with loose ppl behind you.

As played, you gotta bet the flop..no reason not to and giving a free card can def hurt you.

Turn, when you get min-raised...I'd call and proceed very carefully.. If there is a big bet on river...I would probably fold.

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