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11-01-2009 , 03:56 PM
Didn't mean to donk the flop. I thought I was the PFR sb vs bb.
Villain is 72/9 over 40 hands.

I was lost on every street.
Do we want to 3-bet the flop?
Do we want to CR the turn? do we want to lead the turn?
If we lead what do we do if he raise; if we C;R do we get it in?
River, do we lead, do we CR? if we CR do we want to go broke? (4 into 16 seemed so odd... lol)

My raise is very small ... how much would you raise there, and what plan if he 3-bets the river?

Hmm...

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
SB ($54.05)
Hero ($83.32)
CO ($50.82)
BTN ($55.41)

Dealt to Hero 9Q

fold, BTN raises to $1, fold, Hero calls $0.50,

FLOP ($2.25) 873

Hero bets $1.50, BTN raises to $3.37, Hero calls $1.87,

TURN ($8.99) 873Q

check, BTN bets $3.50, Hero calls $3.50,

RIVER ($15.99) 873Q5

check, BTN bets $4, Hero raises to $9.50
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11-01-2009 , 03:59 PM
raise river bigger.
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11-01-2009 , 04:02 PM
I'd like a lead on the flop. His flop raise is pretty sweet and I suppose a call is okay as half of the deck improves us. When we turn a queen, I'd consider leading thinking that he'll check behind worse made hands and he may or may not check behind draws(but he will call with them).

By the river, I'd go ahead and check/raise. He has a lot of whiffed draws and made hands that he will bet(2p+) in his range at this point. I'd raise more and I think we can fold to a shove.
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11-01-2009 , 04:09 PM
i like leading turn just bc id think hed check behind a lot, but as played when he bets small on the turn, i like a smallish raise to like 9ish. then valuebet on most rivers
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11-01-2009 , 04:35 PM
so if we lead turn for like 6 and he makes it 20, what are we doing
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11-01-2009 , 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by trillions
so if we lead turn for like 6 and he makes it 20, what are we doing
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Am I the only one who feels that his bet sizing on flop/turn looks very much like a FD?

On the turn I thought; he has either a better made hand OR a better draw; and I didn't knew WHAT of the two it was. So it was hard for me to proceed ... If I raise and we get it in my Q could be good and he has the flush outs and Ax for TP. If I raise and we get it in he could be ahead and I need to hit the flush outs.

Its like; I didn't know what cards I do want to see and what cards to avoid lol.
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11-01-2009 , 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Seeeno
.Its like; I didn't know what cards I do want to see and what cards to avoid lol.
It all starts with your weird preflop call IMO. Villain is probably still pretty tight when he opens in late position(not positionally aware) and is unlikely to put dead money in the pot because he won't be bet/folding very often.

Q9s is a hand that I'll 3bet or fold OOP. And it seems like a fold vs our villain.
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11-01-2009 , 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by kaos_
It all starts with your weird preflop call IMO. Villain is probably still pretty tight when he opens in late position(not positionally aware) and is unlikely to put dead money in the pot because he won't be bet/folding very often.

Q9s is a hand that I'll 3bet or fold OOP. And it seems like a fold vs our villain.
wtf? getting 3.5-1 on a call you fold Q9s preflop vs an obvious bad player?
72/6 are horrible stats even on only a mare 30 hands...

With such odds its hard to find any hand to fold, only the worst crap that will flop nothing usefull.
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