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01-05-2023 , 11:35 AM
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    PokerStars - €0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
    Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

    BTN: €52.27 (104.5 bb)
    SB: €72.98 (146 bb)
    BB: €50.00 (100 bb)
    UTG: €58.08 (116.2 bb)
    Hero (MP): €78.74 (157.5 bb)
    CO: €194.04 (388.1 bb)

    SB posts €0.25, BB posts €0.50

    Pre Flop: (pot: €0.75) Hero has 9 A
    fold, Hero raises to €1.25, 2 folds, SB raises to €5.75, fold, Hero calls €4.50

    Flop: (€12.00, 2 players) J 3 6
    SB bets €3.76, Hero calls €3.76

    Turn: (€19.52, 2 players) 6
    SB bets €6.12, Hero raises to €18.30, SB calls €12.18

    River: (€56.12, 2 players) 8
    SB bets €17.59, Hero ?


    Vilain is 21/16/7.8 on 3400 hands
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    01-05-2023 , 11:56 AM
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    Betsizing is weird. Could be a potential blocker with AJ or QQ+ against the 6 or the flush, but could also be a value bet with KQs to avoid a cb with a J.
    Of course, you don't have many 6x in your range and I don't see him have 88 in his range often.

    Thus, I raise and hate myself loosing to JJ (since I'm always loosing to JJ sets lately)
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    01-05-2023 , 12:00 PM
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    I would always shove here. Sorry he had JJ
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    01-05-2023 , 01:42 PM
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    I'm for calling here.
    His calling range has several worse flushes (KQdd, KJdd, QJdd - 3 combos) against 3 combos of JJ and let the 0.5 combo of 66.

    I don't think the EV of shoving will be higher than the EV of calling.
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    01-05-2023 , 02:11 PM
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by slyless
    I'm for calling here.
    His calling range has several worse flushes (KQdd, KJdd, QJdd - 3 combos) against 3 combos of JJ and let the 0.5 combo of 66.

    I don't think the EV of shoving will be higher than the EV of calling.
    They are also calling with KdKx and QdQx.

    The only question imo is if we want to shove or raise smaller.

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