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09-22-2013 , 09:18 PM

Pier2206

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I am unsure I played this hand correctly preflop/flop/turn/river.
Ok, KJ is not the best hand to start with in EP, so I feel I definitely had to play it more aggressively, especially since I am UTG.
Maybe I should have fired a cbet instead of checking the flop? Vilain was not on a big hand since he limped preflop so a cbet should have been profitable.
What about the turn? The 10 gives me 8 more outs.
Is the river a fold? I have a straight but this spot looks so ugly after the raise by villain.
Villain was 30/24/6,5/26 (but only 70 hands played against him)

I think I played the hand too passively from start to end.

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #19538291

Hero (UTG): $53.92 (107.8 bb)
MP: $52.62 (105.2 bb)
CO: $50 (100 bb)
BTN: $96.61 (193.2 bb)
SB: $99.09 (198.2 bb)
BB: $63.22 (126.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K

Hero raises to $1, MP calls $1, 4 folds

Flop: ($2.75) J

(2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $2, Hero calls $2

Turn: ($6.75) T

(2 players)
Hero checks, MP checks

River: ($6.75) A

(2 players)
Hero bets $6, MP raises to $17.50, Hero raises to $50.92 and is all-in, MP calls $32.12 and is all-in

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09-22-2013 , 09:52 PM

Nirwanda

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Fold pre, king jack offsuit is a hand that looks good but really isn't (as our beloved superstar Daniel Negreanu once said).

Flop is w/e, I guess c/c is okay.

Don't pot river, but as played don't 3bet his raise, prob don't even call as his turn checkback is consistent with what he's repping (backdoor flush).

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09-23-2013 , 02:30 AM

ForeverLearning

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Pre shouldn't be an auto open but it's fine under certain circumstances.

Don't bet so huge on the river, you're looking to get called by less than a str8. 3betting river makes no sense, you're crushed by his calling range. The only point would be to make him fold Kx (likely calling when you pot river).

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09-23-2013 , 05:45 AM

fegelein

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does anyone likes villain's turn check?

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09-23-2013 , 07:57 AM

Vilhelms

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Originally Posted by fegelein

does anyone likes villain's turn check?

Yes, he doesn't wanna get raised off the pot as a couple of draws came in, and he has great implied odds on the river if the hero has improved.

If the villain doesn't improve he can check back the river or safely fold to a bet.

I like it!

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09-23-2013 , 10:10 AM

YARR123

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Originally Posted by Vilhelms

How often does anyone x/c, x/r as original raiser? Having so much equity with no sdv at all, I don't like checking back.

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09-23-2013 , 10:31 AM

Nirwanda

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Originally Posted by YARR123

How often does anyone x/c, x/r as original raiser? Having so much equity with no sdv at all, I don't like checking back.

No sdv? He has a pair.

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09-23-2013 , 10:37 AM

VantACoo-key?

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Originally Posted by fegelein

does anyone likes villain's turn check?

The only thing I really dislike about villains line is pre.

OP I would pretty much never 3b ship this river, and if we're doing it to fold chops I'd want a club in our hand, as either a Kc or Jc block a lot of XcXc combo's that he'd flat pre. Pre is close in a decent amount of line-ups. Flop is okay to balance but I'd c-bet decently often.

Last edited by VantACoo-key?; 09-23-2013 at 10:38 AM. Reason: The Jc is otf, but yeah I'd want the Kc here

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09-23-2013 , 11:19 AM

YARR123

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Originally Posted by Nirwanda

No sdv? He has a pair.

missed that, lol

that makes it different, but he can still get better to fold with a bet so not sure.

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09-23-2013 , 11:23 AM

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EatMyBanana

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1) UTG fold KJo

As played. Cbet flop. Evaluate turn. If foldtocbetturn of villian is low check call turn, if foldtocbetturn is high cbet the turn.
River is check call imo.

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09-23-2013 , 12:25 PM

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AggressiveFold

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Your river shove is super spew

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09-23-2013 , 01:38 PM

#12

Pier2206

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Originally Posted by Vilhelms

So I think I should have bet the turn with the flush draw on the board to avoid giving villain a free card, then check the river and fold to a bet. But then I got a straight and do not accept to be beaten by a flush draw.

So how to be sure that villain is not bluffing on the river? His play on the turn that shows weakness and that he is on a draw? I guess that if he had a hand like AJ or if he was not on a draw, he would have bet the turn to win the hand ASAP?

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