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NL50: Not the best of flops (or is it?) for AA in a 4-bet pot, facing a  2X overbet shove NL50: Not the best of flops (or is it?) for AA in a 4-bet pot, facing a  2X overbet shove

09-15-2023 , 12:59 AM
Opponent was loose and aggressive (but very likely a winning player, not a maniac), perfectly capable of making moves. Such as calling 4-bets and shoving when the opponent shows weakness.

I played it the way I played, trusting my read. I just wonder what is the optimal plan here? Range check (then do what?), bet tiny (then do what), bet large or what?

I'm not super deep here but still deeper than 100bb, should that affect my decision?

Opponent was quite aggressive preflop (and knows I can 4-bet light here as well), so some hands like AK/QQ/JJ can probably be taken out of the equation cos he would in all likelihood shoved them preflop.


Bonus question: How would you play it against a more normal reg, who is not capable of bluff shoving and only has me beat or has a FD here?



    iPoker - €0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
    Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

    CO: €52.60 (105.2 bb)
    BTN: €106.87 (213.7 bb)
    Hero (SB): €68.31 (136.6 bb)
    BB: €326.73 (653.5 bb)
    UTG: €55.67 (111.3 bb)

    Hero posts SB €0.25, BB posts €0.50

    Pre Flop: (pot: €0.75) Hero has A A
    3 folds, Hero raises to €1.50, BB raises to €4.50, Hero raises to €13.00, BB calls €8.50

    Flop: (€26.00, 2 players) 7 6 T
    Hero checks, BB bets €313.73, Hero calls €55.31


    Spoiler:

    Turn: (€136.62, 2 players) 2

    River: (€136.62, 2 players) 5

    Results: €136.62 pot (€1.50 rake)
    Final Board: 7 6 T 2 5

    Hero shows A A: (One Pair, Aces)
    (Pre 77%, Flop 65%, Turn 80%)

    BB shows 7 8: (One Pair, Sevens)
    (Pre 23%, Flop 35%, Turn 20%)

    Hero wins €135.12

    NL50: Not the best of flops (or is it?) for AA in a 4-bet pot, facing a  2X overbet shove Quote
    09-15-2023 , 06:36 AM
    there is an extremely low chance you’re beat here. this is like 60% spew, 40% weak pair that doesn’t want to play future streets.

    also, u need to change this player’s tag. a winning reg would never pull a move like this OTF lmao
    NL50: Not the best of flops (or is it?) for AA in a 4-bet pot, facing a  2X overbet shove Quote
    09-15-2023 , 07:42 AM
    Snapping as played, but didn't you just bet with the intention of jamming ott? Protecting your checking range?

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    NL50: Not the best of flops (or is it?) for AA in a 4-bet pot, facing a  2X overbet shove Quote
    09-15-2023 , 08:58 AM
    Quote:
    also, u need to change this player’s tag. a winning reg would never pull a move like this OTF lmao
    Quote:
    Opponent was loose and aggressive (but very likely a winning player, not a maniac)

    Quote:
    Pre Flop: (pot: €0.75) Hero has A A
    3 folds, Hero raises to €1.50, BB raises to €4.50, Hero raises to €13.00, BB calls €8.50

    Flop: (€26.00, 2 players) 7 6 T
    Hero checks, BB bets €313.73, Hero calls €55.31
    I'm not sure I would be labeling this player as a winning reg. Definitely tagging hand and looking to make some notes on this Villain.

    TT is the only hand I can see that is beating you here, maybe. I expect to see a lot of suited connectors and Axs and pocket pairs no set when we call. Agree with Red, line is super spewy and reeks of being uncomfortable post flop. Villain is likely a fish.
    NL50: Not the best of flops (or is it?) for AA in a 4-bet pot, facing a  2X overbet shove Quote
    09-18-2023 , 04:28 PM
    maybe i am missing something but he can shove QQ or JJ here.
    NL50: Not the best of flops (or is it?) for AA in a 4-bet pot, facing a  2X overbet shove Quote
    09-18-2023 , 04:29 PM
    he can be valueshoving JJ or QQ here. against your KTs or ATs.
    NL50: Not the best of flops (or is it?) for AA in a 4-bet pot, facing a  2X overbet shove Quote
    09-19-2023 , 12:07 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Fish69
    maybe i am missing something but he can shove QQ or JJ here.
    This particular opponent would shove them pre like 95% of times against me.

    He would also shove the flop when checked to very often. That's why I checked here. The problem with this hand is that the flop connects quite well with the kind of hands he could call my 4-bet with. In this particular case even his bluff had 35% equity.

    It's still a call of course, just not a a fist bump one.
    NL50: Not the best of flops (or is it?) for AA in a 4-bet pot, facing a  2X overbet shove Quote
    09-19-2023 , 12:27 AM
    I feel like this is a hand like 7sxs a lot or some other type of combo draw.
    NL50: Not the best of flops (or is it?) for AA in a 4-bet pot, facing a  2X overbet shove Quote

          
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