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06-18-2008 , 03:05 PM
Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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BB: $33.40
UTG: $48.85
CO: $67.75
Hero (BTN): $49.75
SB: $66.35

Pre Flop: Hero is BTN with J J
UTG raises to $2, 1 fold, Hero raises to $6.50, 2 folds, UTG calls $4.50

Flop: ($13.75) 8 5 2 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $9, UTG calls $9

Turn: ($31.75) Q (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($31.75) 6 (2 players)
UTG bets $10.50, Hero calls $10.50

Villain is a total unknown. Pre-flop and flop are standard. Turn I check behind to control the pot since it's a WA/WB. On the river, I think he's doing this with 99-TT or anything a random player might have to call here profitably. Good?
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06-18-2008 , 06:19 PM
bump
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06-18-2008 , 06:21 PM
Youre probably beat here since I doubt he does this with 99-TT very often. I also doubt he reverse floated you with AQ. So I guess we are looking at QQ-AA but getting over 4:1 on a call I dont think I can fold here.
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06-18-2008 , 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Profish2285
Youre probably beat here since I doubt he does this with 99-TT very often. I also doubt he reverse floated you with AQ. So I guess we are looking at QQ-AA but getting over 4:1 on a call I dont think I can fold here.
Yeah, those were about my exact thoughts. What range do you give him though?
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06-18-2008 , 10:07 PM
(88-AA) with 88, QQ-AA being weighted more and random air once in a while. I just think that you will see something spazzy from an unknown often enough to call getting over 4:1 but its close.
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06-18-2008 , 10:34 PM
Easy call on river given the odds, bet/fold turn though i think.
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06-18-2008 , 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by blocka
Easy call on river given the odds, bet/fold turn though i think.
What are we trying to get value from?
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06-18-2008 , 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Jailblazers
What are we trying to get value from?
The turn is a blank as far as we are concerned. Its very very likely that if we are beat now, its because we were beat before. The only reason to check behind the turn is to try to get value from the lower part of his range. It just so happened that a really nasty river card peeled, but if it didnt and he checked, then we could bet that and get more value. Of course for balance's sake we should be betting this turn sometimes as well, but in a vacuum I think checking behind the turn to extract value and pot control is better than betting the turn.
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06-18-2008 , 11:42 PM
I think we're looking at him having 88-QQ a lot of the time. For some reason I feel AA/KK would have played the hand differently (like c/r the flop. So since we definitely have equity against that range (+some bluffs, -some made random hands like flushes), I'm calling here.
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