I play 14/11

Villain is bad, barely winning reg
12/10 over 926 hands
btn open 50%
fold to 3b 61%
fold to 3b otb 3 out of 4
cbet 60%
turn cbet 57%
fold to c/r, no stats
wtsd 42%

BB is reggy looking 18/12 over 130 hands

1)3b pre for value?

villain does cbet into two people, range should be tighter - two overs, Tx, 6x, 77-99, and obv monsters
that is 20% of total hands

Board: Tc 2h 6d
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 36.405% 34.15% 02.26% 65917 4362.50 { KhQh }
Hand 1: 63.595% 61.34% 02.26% 118408 4362.50 { 66+, 22, ATs+, A6s, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, T9s, T6s, 98s, 87s, 43s, ATo+, KTo+, QTo, JTo, 98o, 87o }

what part of this range continues if i c/r?
1/2 of cbet range which is
{ 99+, 66, 22, AJs-ATs, A6s, KTs, QTs, JTs, T9s, T6s, ATo, KTo, QTo, JTo }

therefore c/r to $6.5-$7 and betting only good turns (9, J, K, Q) should be +EV

i was thinking about oop float, but wtsd 42% means he likes to bluffcatch and i can expect him to call river bet with any pair

2)any good arguments for oop float?

HU i am raising this flop pretty often once we elect to flat pre. we have 2 overs + 2 backdoors and we are facing a wide range. we can surely get him to fold some better hands like Ax and medium PPs.

3way vs. this cbet sizing and given that V doesn't cbet that often i prolly just fold and give him some credit.

+1

in this spot as a villain i'm 3beting you 90% of the time regardless of my holdings

as for the hand - nice spot to fold

good for u, i am going to raise u only with bottom pair+ then, for value...

so you're going to get beaten most of the time, cuz i ain't beting this board with complete air

lol...i like when you troll

seriously, if u expect your average 50nl FR reg to fight back often vs. a 14/11 here you are prolly doing it wrong. if he does, simply adjust

Villain c-bets into two people in the blinds that have checked, which is a different dynamic.

While the blinds may have any random rubbish this flop could not be more dry if it tried.

If you are only ever going to c-bet once in your life in a multiway pot this is your chance.

name a single hand that raises this board - 50nlers are not good/bad or w/e ENOUGH to raise here sets, cause board is super dry, also this short handed they're 3beting pre almost always any overpair, that leaving us with what? no draws possible here, no way 50nlers start raising TPTK/TPGK stuff
besides i dont bet such board with air, i mean it's terrible for barreling with air...

I guess we could call and plan on check/raising a ton of turn cards and villain should give us credit unless he has a monster. If he checks behind the turn then we can just bet the river and take it down a lot of the time. If he calls we get to learn a ton of info about him. All that is obviously depending on the BB actions as well. I do think the board is pretty dry to raise which is why a turn raise looks so strong but then again most NL50 players wont even be that fussed that we raise here on the flop and wont even consider turning their hand in to a bluff.

I can think of a couple of regs who do this pretty often, albeit mostly against fish but I've seen them do it against regs aswell.

I even use it sometimes because it looks like we're full of s*t

and kind of like this tbh.

always assuming we were HU vs an X tag reg

i think we both agree that we dont rep that much, but what we dont agree on is

1) the fact that most reggish players are just folding too much vs a raise here, hence it is profitable. (we could argue whether floating is better though, but we dont know mich about V.)
2) the fact that esp HU most regs blindly cbet dry boards, just bc it is dry without really thinking that much about what to do later on and your range.

3)V is not u, is a bad reg. that said i just noticed this particular V high wtsd hence bluffing isnt prolly the best idea even HU.
4) post this hand in V' shoes in this forum. once u get raised like 90% of the people will tell u to fold. wrong or right idk, but most would fold

on another note if V doesnt shouldnt cbet light in this spot hence it becomes a bad spot to bluff but a good spot to value raise, hence raising monsters here is actually fine.

OT

also not sure how does the fact that we are SH influence 3bet range here. it is BTN vs blinds, whether it is 6max or FR.
interesting. do anyone think that ranges change when a FR table gets SH in LP dynamics? (overall stats might change on small samples just bc of other positions dynamics, but what about CO through BB?)

not sure about that, there's a ton of 50nlers with quite balanced betting range, so when a 50nler bets this board, i'm more inclined to fold then to expect he's blindly cbeting. that is of course completely readless, without relevant stats n no history
i wouldnt raise a monster here, but i dont think it would be a mistake