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NL50 KK facing a lot of heat preflop *Part 2* NL50 KK facing a lot of heat preflop *Part 2*

10-29-2009 , 06:18 PM
Villain is a 16/10/4 over 7k hands and a break even player (3 stacks down over 7k hands).

He had never done anything like this before. And as far as I can remeber, we dont have any particular history.

Is this really a fist pump call, I mean, I only invested $2 so far and my whole stack is at risk and I'm not even sure this kind of reg is doing this with air, AK or QQ? Thoughts please.

Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

SB: $56.35
BB: $99.25
UTG: $43.40
Hero (UTG+1): $50.00
MP1: $50.75
MP2: $31.70
CO: $99.45
BTN: $133.35

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is UTG+1 with K K
1 fold, Hero raises to $2, 5 folds, BB raises to $99.25 all in, Hero requests TIME, Hero ??
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10-29-2009 , 06:20 PM
Double fist-pump the mis-click/meant to act at a different table
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10-29-2009 , 06:21 PM
OMG KK PF DONT FOLD AHHHHHH
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10-29-2009 , 06:33 PM
snap faster then the speed of light
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10-29-2009 , 06:33 PM
I fold this to someone I have 7k hands on and is a reasonable player.
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10-29-2009 , 06:35 PM
Snap snap
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10-29-2009 , 06:39 PM
OP if you wouldn't mind pm me name of villain, I had the exact same spot come up the other night on FTP 50nl. I open UTG, reg guy who seems reasonable snap shoves from BB. Except I didn't have the second nuts obv, wondering if he actually plays hands this way normally.

And call.
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10-29-2009 , 06:51 PM
Well i'd snap but meh.....

If it's a reg this is a misclick way more often than anything else right so how low should we be calling down???
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10-29-2009 , 06:55 PM
Depends what he shows up this first time that we snap it off. Might not be a misclick. Might be a omgthislineis******edyouwillcallmyAAaipfthisway
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10-29-2009 , 06:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by xxdanimalxx
Depends what he shows up this first time that we snap it off. Might not be a misclick. Might be a omgthislineis******edyouwillcallmyAAaipfthisway
Yeah good point but i was thinking more in general against a guy with taggish stats. I think that we should either be folding KK because it's AA too much or calling with a fairly wide range range.

But meh it's not like it's something that happens often enough to actually bother thinking about
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10-29-2009 , 07:00 PM
Obv make a note when he does it but this happens very rarely vs. regs. Usually its vs fish and you can snap call and lose to JJ.
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10-29-2009 , 07:07 PM
I dont see this as a misclick, I mean I multitable between 9 and 16 tables myself and of course it happens that you accidently fold, call or minraise but since moving all-in by yourself needs two clicks I dont see how this can happen. I never ever misclicked an all-in. Am I so wrong that I dont think this might not happen?
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10-29-2009 , 07:09 PM
Call everytime.
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10-29-2009 , 07:09 PM
Some people use ahk scripts that may have all-in as a hotkey.
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10-29-2009 , 07:10 PM
This is a fist pump snap call.
you are crushing all bar 6 hand combinations.

1) He can be monkey tilting and be shoving ATC
2) He can have misclicked
3) He could be showing off to a friend
4) He can sometimes have AKs
5) You still have ~20% equity if he has AA anyway.
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10-29-2009 , 07:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Messenjupp
I dont see this as a misclick, I mean I multitable between 9 and 16 tables myself and of course it happens that you accidently fold, call or minraise but since moving all-in by yourself needs two clicks I dont see how this can happen. I never ever misclicked an all-in. Am I so wrong that I dont think this might not happen?
TableNinja does NOT follow your eyes.

Hero look at table, scrolls mouse wheel up to shove, clicks bet button. Hero sees chips flying around in his peripheral vision at a different table. GG stack.
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10-29-2009 , 07:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by xxdanimalxx
Some people use ahk scripts that may have all-in as a hotkey.
Good point, havent considered that but makes perfect sense.
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10-29-2009 , 07:13 PM
I have one of the very few examples where it is reasonable to fold KK PF.

e.g. was 12/10 Reg opens UTG
16/14 reg 3 bets UTG2

Digger 4bets MP KK

10/8/ 1% 3 bet% 5 bet from BB

150bb effective stacks to BB.

With a cold 5 bet from a nit - I ended up falt calling and getting stacked.
The consensus was that it is prolly a fold.
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