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10-28-2011 , 06:44 PM

Zseti

stranger

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 9

Villain is: 26/15/5.7, fold to 3b 29, 4bet 35%, 4b range 5,5%, postflop af 1,7, 25% agg, 570 hands
I thought, if i push pre, only AA calls, so I just called. Was that good?
What to do on the flop?

$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Holdem
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($92.77)
Zseti (UTG+1) ($89.76)
CO ($86.92)
BTN ($36.24)
SB ($35.51)
BB ($35.89)

Pre-Flop: ($0.75, 6 players) Zseti is UTG+1 K

UTG raises to $1.50, Zseti raises to $6, 4 folds, UTG raises to $15.50, Zseti calls $9.50

Flop: 6

($31.75, 2 players)
UTG bets $23.75, $23.75 to Zseti ($74.26)?

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10-28-2011 , 07:53 PM

u mad

centurion

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 180

i would get it in pre against a 5.5% 4b range

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10-28-2011 , 09:01 PM

As1an1nvas1on

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 4,352

pre is fine, i prob call flop

his sizing is ******ed tho, whats his standard sizing for 3bet pots?

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10-28-2011 , 11:30 PM

DanielKim

adept

Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 716

his 4bet sizing is way too big, but still shoving pre here. i think 5.5% 4bet is a pretty wide-enough range.

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10-28-2011 , 11:48 PM

chad0x001

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 8,558

get all in pre with KK vs his wide 4bet range. by not doing this you have made life difficult for yourself.

What kind of hands can he play this way with? do we beat more of them than we lose to ? then get it all in on flop.

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10-29-2011 , 12:10 PM

Zseti

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Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 9

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Originally Posted by As1an1nvas1on

pre is fine, i prob call flop

his sizing is ******ed tho, whats his standard sizing for 3bet pots?

He was always bettin 3/4 pot in 3b pots what I've seen. But I saw only 1 sd, doing this with KK, and once he folded to a minraise in a 3b pot.
And he had 100% cbet (6 times) in 3b pots.

Last edited by Zseti; 10-29-2011 at 12:17 PM.

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10-29-2011 , 12:32 PM

bluwave

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Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 14

I'm definetly 5-Bet shoving this had pre as a better than 2.1:1 favorite against his 4b range.

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10-29-2011 , 12:41 PM

sinnaJ

old hand

Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,458

people wanting to 5bet here note that we are almost 200BB deep and note that is 4bet range is not his stackoff range.
I guess most people on these stakes fold QQ and possibly AK in this spot.
I would asume this villain to be much more likely to spew his money into us when we call the 4bet.

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10-29-2011 , 12:43 PM

DaycareInferno

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Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 18,285

pre would be pretty standard if the guy wasn't kind of a fish, because he'd just be 4betting the with nuts and random stuff, not JJ and things like that. this guy looks fishy enough to me that i'm not giving him that much credit though.

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10-29-2011 , 02:05 PM

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Timex007

journeyman

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 363

I like pre as we let villain spew more chips with a c-bet. Shove flop, he calls with JJs-QQ's and FD.

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10-29-2011 , 03:20 PM

#11

Zseti

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Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 9

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Originally Posted by Timex007

I like pre as we let villain spew more chips with a c-bet. Shove flop, he calls with JJs-QQ's and FD.

I thought the same, and I shoved on the flop.

Pre-Flop: ($0.75, 6 players) Zseti is UTG+1 K

UTG raises to $1.50, Zseti raises to $6, 4 folds, UTG raises to $15.50, Zseti calls $9.50

Flop: 6

($31.75, 2 players)
UTG bets $23.75, Zseti goes all-in $74.26, UTG calls $50.51

Turn: 5

($180.27, 2 players, 1 all-in)

River: 2

($180.27, 2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $180.27
UTG shows FLUSH ACE
A

Zseti shows FLUSH KING
K

UTG wins $177.27 (net +$87.51)

Zseti lost $89.76

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10-29-2011 , 03:23 PM

#12

0equity

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,732

regardless of pre, flop is fine nh.

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10-29-2011 , 03:27 PM

#13

I'mAFrenchDonkey

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 1,589

Chauve flop

Not really relevant but i'm not a big fan of your 3bet sizing pre (*4 is maybe a bit too much, even 200 deep)

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