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NL50 JJ 3betpot v MP NL50 JJ 3betpot v MP

05-31-2018 , 03:30 AM
Is this to thin? Should we start to X at some point? If so, when? Was autopiloting in this hand and I feel like its poorly played since it's hard to get called by onepair hands

Villian is a 32/25 with a fold to 3bet of 54% abd WTSD of 26% after
665 hands
    IPoker, $0.10/$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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    SB: $30.11 (150.6 bb)
    Hero (BB): $20 (100 bb)
    MP: $25.17 (125.9 bb)
    CO: $8.74 (43.7 bb)
    BTN: $21 (105 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with J J
    MP raises to $0.60, 3 folds, Hero raises to $2, MP calls $1.40

    Flop: ($4.10) 2 9 7 (2 players)
    Hero bets $2.20, MP calls $2.20

    Turn: ($8.50) T (2 players)
    Hero bets $4.80, MP calls $4.80

    River: ($18.10) 5 (2 players)
    Hero bets $11 and is all-in, MP folds

    Spoiler:
    Results: $18.10 pot ($0.54 rake)
    Final Board: 2 9 7 T 5
    Hero mucked J J and won $17.56 ($8.56 net)
    MP mucked and lost (-$9 net)
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    05-31-2018 , 10:14 AM
    I would prob look to check/fold river. But should go check / check a lot and you win. Unless you have the read that this V turns pairs into bluffs on scary run outs, everything gets there.
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    05-31-2018 , 10:59 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Scott7x
    I would prob look to check/fold river. But should go check / check a lot and you win. Unless you have the read that this V turns pairs into bluffs on scary run outs, everything gets there.
    yeah youre right thanks. So turn is still a bet right?
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    05-31-2018 , 12:09 PM
    Flop/turn play is fine. You should be checking each street a lot obviously, but this is the first hand to go in your betting buckets. Betting flop bigger and shipping turn is potentially preferable since your betting range is so narrow anyway. Check/ship turn is a good option as well when you size flop this way, but regs at these stakes are such nitty vbettors that he'll end up xbing Tx a lot here.

    OTR, it's a slam-dunk bluffcatch against a bot given how hard you block what he'd be repping, but it's hard to imagine what a 20NL reg is double-floating with that didn't get there (and that we don't block really hard), and the population's incompetent at turning single pairs into a bluff, so you can assume they're underbluffing here. That could potentially mean we can lead shove, but I probably lean toward x/fing and mostly expecting it to check through when we're good. Maybe not safe to make explo folds against 32/25s though ...
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    05-31-2018 , 12:46 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Andy Art
    yeah youre right thanks. So turn is still a bet right?
    Yeah , I think the turn bet is good. Still a lot of hands you can get value from.
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    05-31-2018 , 05:51 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by RaiseAnnounced
    Flop/turn play is fine. You should be checking each street a lot obviously, but this is the first hand to go in your betting buckets. Betting flop bigger and shipping turn is potentially preferable since your betting range is so narrow anyway. Check/ship turn is a good option as well when you size flop this way, but regs at these stakes are such nitty vbettors that he'll end up xbing Tx a lot here.

    OTR, it's a slam-dunk bluffcatch against a bot given how hard you block what he'd be repping, but it's hard to imagine what a 20NL reg is double-floating with that didn't get there (and that we don't block really hard), and the population's incompetent at turning single pairs into a bluff, so you can assume they're underbluffing here. That could potentially mean we can lead shove, but I probably lean toward x/fing and mostly expecting it to check through when we're good. Maybe not safe to make explo folds against 32/25s though ...
    Perfectly stated. Probably x/f river if only because I think population tendencies (like you said above, 50NL population SUCKS at turning made hands into bluffs) outweighs how sexy our blockers are to V's value range, and even though we remove a large amount of value most 50NL people are just gonna have it here when they shove unfortunately.
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    05-31-2018 , 09:11 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Scott7x
    I would prob look to check/fold river. But should go check / check a lot and you win. Unless you have the read that this V turns pairs into bluffs on scary run outs, everything gets there.
    I really don't like x/f...
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    06-01-2018 , 12:23 AM
    It looks to me like Villains range OTR is mostly a mix of flushes and random pairs(e.g. A9s, 98s, 88, ect.). Flushes have us beat and pairs are unlikely to bluff which is why c/f seems appealing.

    From a distribution stand point I'm sure its an easy call but I think when he takes the call, call line on this board at these stakes it puts Villain on a specific narrow range and we can play accordingly.
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