Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
NL50 considering a fold with top 2 in 3-bet pot NL50 considering a fold with top 2 in 3-bet pot

09-07-2011 , 08:05 AM
Villain is 19/15/3 over 1.1k hands. Fold to 3-bet 64%. My 3-bet preflop was a misclick, I wanted to fold.
Am I crazy if I consider a fold on the flop to his raise or is it an unique spot where it's ok to do so? I need 38% equity to shove (assuming he never folds). How do you like c/raise flop?

Stoved some:
Board: Th Js Kh

Hand 0: 32.259% { KsJd }
Hand 1: 67.741% { JJ-TT, AQs, KJs+, JTs, AQo, KQo }


Everest - $0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players

Hero (BB): $150.00
UTG: $54.70
CO: $283.40
BTN: $61.20
SB: $37.20

SB posts SB $0.25, Hero posts BB $0.50

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero has J K

UTG raises to $1.75, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $5.50, UTG calls $3.75

Flop: ($11.25, 2 players) T J K
Hero bets $8.00, UTG raises to $20.00, Hero?
NL50 considering a fold with top 2 in 3-bet pot Quote
09-07-2011 , 08:47 AM
Whats his UTG opening %? Do u know what he calls pre with?

I don't like b/f the flop,but b/c vs nit seems like a suicide,TT,JJ,AQ are def in his range,I doubt he raises KQ,AK(and it prolly 4bets).

Ah,it so hard without reads.
NL50 considering a fold with top 2 in 3-bet pot Quote
09-07-2011 , 08:50 AM
go all in
NL50 considering a fold with top 2 in 3-bet pot Quote
09-07-2011 , 08:52 AM
^ can u give us a range which we are happy doing that pls?
NL50 considering a fold with top 2 in 3-bet pot Quote
09-07-2011 , 09:09 AM
That flop hits his range reaallly hard, and it hits ur perceived range even harder, unless u 3bet him a lot on this table. I doubt he will ever raise u here with worse. Whats ur table image and do u have any 3bet dynamic going on with him? If u have none, easy fold.
NL50 considering a fold with top 2 in 3-bet pot Quote
09-07-2011 , 11:37 AM
Fold...he has hit the flop...when he check raises u he is strong
NL50 considering a fold with top 2 in 3-bet pot Quote
09-07-2011 , 11:56 AM
imo this is just a fold. Don't think you can include KQ in his 3bet calling range utg which makes your equity even worse.
NL50 considering a fold with top 2 in 3-bet pot Quote
09-07-2011 , 12:44 PM
no
NL50 considering a fold with top 2 in 3-bet pot Quote
09-07-2011 , 01:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sharkbaitOHH
no
Can u give a more wide answer pls
NL50 considering a fold with top 2 in 3-bet pot Quote
09-07-2011 , 01:05 PM
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Spoiler:
we have top 2 in a 3bet pot on a two tone board

board is very drawy
we block sets
we have 2pair in a low SPR pot

half the combos of sets
doesn't include flushdraws

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

289,080 games 0.034 secs 8,502,352 games/sec

Board: Th Jc Kh
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 53.954% 52.19% 01.76% 150868 5101.00 { AA, KdKh, KdKs, KhKs, JdJh, JdJs, JhJs, AQs+, KJs+, JTs, AQo+, KQo }
Hand 1: 46.046% 44.28% 01.76% 128010 5101.00 { KJo }
NL50 considering a fold with top 2 in 3-bet pot Quote
09-07-2011 , 01:15 PM
this hand would be more interesting if we had a diffrent 2p.


agree with the fish above, too much equity to fold.
NL50 considering a fold with top 2 in 3-bet pot Quote
09-07-2011 , 01:35 PM
How did you misclick to 5.75? Light 3-betting?

What's his 4-bet range here?

Guys fairly tight so his calling range UTG doesn't have JT or KJs IMO, your looking at a set or AQ.
NL50 considering a fold with top 2 in 3-bet pot Quote
09-07-2011 , 01:37 PM
How did you misclick to 5.75? Light 3-betting?

What's his 4-bet range here?

Guys fairly tight so his calling range UTG doesn't have JT or KJs IMO, your looking at a set or AQ.
NL50 considering a fold with top 2 in 3-bet pot Quote
09-07-2011 , 02:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by burpst
Whats his UTG opening %? Do u know what he calls pre with?
he opens 11% from UTG. Don't know much about his calling range.
Quote:
Originally Posted by stabbyah
Whats ur table image and do u have any 3bet dynamic going on with him? If u have none, easy fold.
I'm on the LAG side but nothing too crazy. No dynamic.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Busto again
How did you misclick to 5.75? Light 3-betting?
I clicked the 'bet pot button'.

Anyways I think I should c/raise flop. As played it's a fold.

Last edited by Reemix; 09-07-2011 at 02:46 PM.
NL50 considering a fold with top 2 in 3-bet pot Quote

      
m