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08-06-2008 , 02:17 PM

Machew

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Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,236

Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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Hero (SB): $53.15
BB: $16.15
UTG: $29.75
CO: $23.10
BTN: $46.00

Pre Flop: Hero is SB with A

UTG calls $0.50, 1 fold, BTN raises to $2, Hero calls $1.75, 2 folds

Flop: ($5.00) 9

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $3.50, Hero raises to $14, BTN calls $10.50

Turn: ($33.00) 4

(2 players)
Hero bets $22, BTN raises to $30 all in, Hero calls $8

River: ($93.00) 7

I know, I know, reraise preflop. I didn't have a read or stats on this player and I wasn't quite sure what I was going to do if I got 4bet, so I just called.

Is my flop check/raise and bet sizing correct?

When you get called and the turn bricks, do you normally keep firing? Is my turn bet spew? Is there a better way to play this hand?

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08-06-2008 , 02:31 PM

125ppm

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Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 28

In this spot, having merely called preflop, I think I would continue to play passively and just call the flop bet, especially against an unknown.

You asked about the turn though...since you raised so big on the flop you should just shove here.

I would basically always 3 bet this preflop, (folding to 4 bet probably) and bet/call on flop when my equity is likely at its highest.

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08-06-2008 , 02:56 PM

ReiDeBastoni

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Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 80

Being OOP sucks, doesn't it? That's even more reason to 3 bet PF. Playing this hand is much easier IP, since you can just check behind on the turn and fold river. But you don't have that luxury. Either a blocking bet or a c/c should suffice on the flop, or even a blocking b3b. The villain probably has a somewhat wide range of hands here, but maybe not as wide as most button raises, since he raised an UTG limper. As played to the turn, I would check fold river. If he didn't fold to your huge flop c/r, he's probably going all the way with the hand.

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08-06-2008 , 03:54 PM

Sampson26

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Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 531

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Originally Posted by ReiDeBastoni

i have never heard of a blocking b/3b before.

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08-06-2008 , 04:09 PM

JDFSSS

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Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,022

This hand is too good to not 3 bet, especially OOP. You can't let the possibility of him shoving keep you from 3 betting it.

I don't think it's very likely he folds the turn after a brick cmes. I think getting the money in on the turn is slightly -EV, but if you're going to do it then check/calling is slightly better than betting out. Check/folding your NFD sucks, but it's the best option you have on the turn.

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08-06-2008 , 04:17 PM

jmgambler

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Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,465

In position I would raise the flop, but I dont mind c/calling the flop as we didnt 3bet PF

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08-06-2008 , 08:11 PM

Machew

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Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,236

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Originally Posted by JDFSSS

It seems like every time I flat with AQ oop I regret it. I've got to start pumping or dumping this hand in the blinds almost always.

Is AQo also a 3bet here?

Suppose I had 3bet and villain called, should I cbet 1/2-2/3 pot and call a shove?

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08-06-2008 , 08:15 PM

Rounder101

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Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 349

good u know but its good to insist, 3b PF...
Flop, b/3b shove is by far the best line

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08-06-2008 , 08:58 PM

JDFSSS

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Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,022

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Originally Posted by Machew

Yeah, AQo is also a 3 bet. AQ is a great hand to 3 bet with because many villains will be 4 betting with every hand that has you dominated (QQ+ and AK) and call with hands that you have dominated, so you can essentially play your hand like the nuts if he calls your 3 bet and you hit a pair.

If you 3 bet PF, you are definitely going to be c-betting and getting it in on this flop.

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08-06-2008 , 09:03 PM

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d_smith77

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Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 14,652

you dont HAVE to 3bet AQs but you probably should as a standard to make it easier to play. and your line isnt great here, i think you played flop and turn suboptimally. b3b the flop and try and get it in there when you have the most equity. assuming you c/r the flop though, just shove the turn. you have less than a PSB left, just get it in and hope you have some FE (this, guys, is where you want FE).

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08-06-2008 , 11:31 PM

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ReiDeBastoni

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sampson26

i have never heard of a blocking b/3b before.

Yeah, that wasn't 100% explicit, sorry. I meant the first bet being a small blocking bet, but if you get raised, shove.

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