Just calling pre is an option. I dont like it, but its a lot better than raise/folding AK. With the info you have I dont see how you can not call this shove, especially as the caller pre makes squeezing light more attractive for you

GTFO ******

Hand ranges?

This guy is 24/16 with 6% 3-bet. That's not a maniac. That's not a LAG. That's a solid TAG. And he's doing this from UG. Most people with those kind of stats are very tight UG and I put him on a very small range. I don't like looking for monsters under the bed, but IMO, this guy is turning over a big hand most of the time.

And why would he shove with AA or KK here? I do it all the time in this situation, 'cause I know you'll call because it's "+EV".

lol bartlett one day u will see your posts here and wish u could delete them.

as far as what villain has, i dont really care since we have the nuts for 100bbs.

Last post on this, yes he could shove KK+ here, yes he will nearly always show up with a big hand, but we also have a big hand getting ~1.5/1 on our money so its a +EV call. 3bet/folding AK really sucks

Look I understand it and I shove every time here but I am also not surprised when he rolls over AA/KK because people with full stacks and tight ranges just aren't that out of line at these levels. At least with KK I will still suck out time to time.

Often the action a player type makes is more important than a simple stat like "there are only 3 combos of aa and 3 combos of kk." It doesn't look like that is the case here though.

Hi Bartlett,

Stunning advice given, disagreed with by all

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/69...mper-s-570618/

More stupidity, and almost contratictory to your advice in this thread

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/69...pot-qq-570395/

Really useful contribution at the end of this thread - well done

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/69...n-hand-569792/

Hilarious misunderstanding of poker terminology, then goes missing from the thread - just LOL

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/69...d-fold-568701/

lol well gl getting him back to this thread now

ohhhh, so you're that guy...

I lawl'd

Bartlett:

I'll flip you HU4ROLLZ $5 stacks T8s vs 22 because T8s is my favorite hand. My hand is unpaired so you have the advantage here because I need to hit a T or an 8 to make the best hand and you don't have to hit anything.

Shhhh don't tell him

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 52.841% 51.97% 00.87% 21356568 358572.00 { T8s }
Hand 1: 47.159% 46.29% 00.87% 19021584 358572.00 { 22 }

AK off only. 1 way to make a straight and 4 cards to make a flush. 10-8 is a favorite over me.

Hand 0: 39.785% 23.66% 16.13% 10936805 7456889.50 { AdKh }
Hand 1: 60.215% 44.09% 16.13% 20381624 7456889.50 { JJ+, AKs, AKo }

If you do the Calculations, I think we're getting like 1.41:1 so I think this is very borderline, I don't mind folding here, yes "we're folding AK in a dead money pot after 3betting" But we're like never ahead here....JMO
Unless we KNOW he's going to be getting it in with like 88, AQ which I doubt.

BTW if you add TT your equity goes to 40.3 still not a +EV call if you're talking technically.

Also if our hand were suited it would give us the extra 3 percent I think we need, I think this is the first hand I've ever seen that being suited swayed the decision.

This really depends on the kind of game you want to play. This is a high variance play.

As played, I fold.

Careful, you'll get called a ******....

I can't believe peopke are even discyssing this still.

Just don't 3b squeeze if you're folding to a shove. That's horrible.

Yes, but surely he's bluffing or doing it with AQ a small % of the time

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he can shove any pair here if u squeeze wide to be profiotable, here u thave the nuts why do u want to fold

Oh, and I know I'm a ****** and all, but with AK, this is a raise for value, not a squeeze play. A true squeeze play is a bluff, typically made with a trash hand. You guys should look that up.

And villain in hand would know we are raising for value not squeezing???

ROFLOL @ comparing play in live high stakes poker to online microstakes


Also, this is such a standard snapcall. Villain is an aggressive player (he 3bet ATo, and his AF is 9!) so his range is soooo wide here that this is profitable 110% of the time.

Aggression factor is a very unreliable stat. And it takes a lot of hands to converge. With only 150 hands it's pretty worthless. Most people I know don't even keep up with it anymore.

serious question: why are you letting bartlett troll you?

guys, leave the nit alone, he's clearly happy where he is

No one is allowed to have an opinion that doesn't agree with yours apparently. If you do, you're a troll.

Funny, I've now seen several people in this thread agree with me on this, but I'm a troll.

Whatever, I'll just keep adding you kiddies to my ignore list.

And if you guys could try not to miss that short bus tomorrow, the grown ups could talk in peace while you're in school.