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NL50: AA vs loose opponent on 2-flush board NL50: AA vs loose opponent on 2-flush board

02-13-2010 , 09:27 AM
Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
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UTG+2: $51.95
MP1: $66.65
MP2: $50.00
CO: $57.80
BTN: $58.05
SB: $51.85
BB: $99.95
Hero (UTG): $49.00
UTG+1: $38.50

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is UTG with A A
Hero raises to $2, 5 folds, BTN calls $2, 2 folds

Flop: ($4.75) 2 J 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $3, BTN raises to $9, Hero ...

Villain is 17/13/1.7 over 220 hands, with fold to flop cbet of 25% and flop raise of 38%. I'm confused because his stats seem loose enough that he'd show up here with more than just JJ/44/22, but OOP with an SPR of 10 the bets can get big fast if I call. Thoughts on how to play the rest of the hand?
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02-13-2010 , 10:15 AM
Him being on the button makes it the most likely place for him to have suited connectors and suited aces. We also don't have the Ac which means he might have it.

I 3-bet flop and feel okay about getting it in. If you got set-mined, well ... it happens. You're going to lose a stack frequently when overpairs run into sets... the alternative is bet/folding too much with the hands that will win you the most money in the long run.
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02-13-2010 , 10:23 AM
Villains representing a set scared of the FD. I might call his bet here and if turn comes a club I bet 3/4 pot. Otherwise 1/2 pot b/f.
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02-13-2010 , 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by spysteve
Villains representing a set scared of the FD. I might call his bet here and if turn comes a club I bet 3/4 pot. Otherwise 1/2 pot b/f.
I don't think the villian would be overly worried about flush draws HU. Hero's range for raising UTG is going to be premium hands and AKs and AQs only make up two of his possible holdings that have a FD. It's more likely that the villian has either a set, flush draw, or top pair. I don't know that the villian raises with top pair but will do so with sets and flush draws.

Reraising will cause the villian to shove better and fold worse. I might call and see what he does on the turn probably check folding to a club and possibly check raising non-clubs.
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02-13-2010 , 02:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Money022
Reraising will cause the villian to shove better and fold worse. I might call and see what he does on the turn probably check folding to a club and possibly check raising non-clubs.
That´s what I was thinking about.
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02-13-2010 , 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by coinflip

Villain is 17/13/1.7 over 220 hands, with fold to flop cbet of 25% and flop raise of 38%.
These flop stats are bad enough that you can 3bet flop and get it in comfortably. He probably doesn't fold TP at all. He might even be playing his flush draw aggressively, in which case you don't want to give him two free cards (by calling, and then checking the turn).

If you're IP it might make sense to call, but OOP you want to 3-bet and get this in.
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02-14-2010 , 09:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Money022
Reraising will cause the villian to shove better and fold worse. I might call and see what he does on the turn probably check folding to a club and possibly check raising non-clubs.
Something like this?

BTN: $58.05
Hero (UTG): $49.00

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is UTG with A A
Hero raises to $2, 5 folds, BTN calls $2, 2 folds

Flop: ($4.75) 2 J 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $3, BTN raises to $9, Hero calls $6

Turn: ($22.75) T (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $14, Hero raises to $38 all in

This was my thinking as well, but in hindsight I wonder if planning to check-raise a non-club was the best idea. A set obviously continues to bet the turn, so all we accomplish is getting our money in bad. How often does a flush draw check behind for a free card? If he does, then by just flatting the flop and checking the turn, we've allowed him to get the money in when he had the most equity, and get a free shot at making his hand on the river. Would donking a non-club flop be better? The downside to that is with stack sizes we obv can't b/f the turn.
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