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nl50: 88 overpair vs check min raise on flop nl50: 88 overpair vs check min raise on flop

04-27-2008 , 03:36 PM
no reads on opponents as this was just a few hands in. he was about 25/22 and had a deeper stack. seems like a decent player? maybe overly aggressive or maybe a bad lag? not too sure.

how are you playing this flop?
turn?

Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players

CO: $50.00
Hero (BTN): $50.00
SB: $51.05
BB: $79.85
UTG: $12.15
MP: $50.00

Pre Flop: Hero is BTN with 8 8
3 folds, Hero raises to $1.75, 1 fold, BB calls $1.25

Flop: ($3.75) 4 5 4 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $3, BB raises to $6, Hero calls $3

Turn: ($15.75) 5 (2 players)
BB bets $11, Hero calls $11
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04-27-2008 , 04:07 PM
I fold turn because even if this guy is bluffing most of the time he will bet the river too which will put you to a decision for all your chips on a scary board.
If you really feel you are ahead of most of his range, push turn.
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04-27-2008 , 04:30 PM
He coldcalls preflop which gives him something like 22-TT, ATo+, A9s+ and some SCs.
Then he min c/r you. The one in that range who beats you are 99, TT, 44, 55.
Unlikely he raises full house and quads even though it could be the case. Other hands more likely are 66-TT and some draws like 78dd etc.
On the turn he bets out which should mean he is not on a draw on a two pair board.
44,55 is very unlikely now also.
The cheapest way to get to river might be to minraise and fold to a shove. I might get flamed for this but he will often call and then check river in which case you can check it down more cheaply than if you call turn and have to face a river bet.
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04-27-2008 , 04:36 PM
I fold this turn almost always. You don't beat much.
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04-27-2008 , 05:41 PM
can a case be made for 3betting the flop for cheap info? if you do 3bet and he flats/checks what would you do?
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04-27-2008 , 09:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mburke05
can a case be made for 3betting the flop for cheap info? if you do 3bet and he flats/checks what would you do?
with 3betting the flop we just fold out all hands we beat,so we are essentially bluffing.calling there is perfectly fine
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04-27-2008 , 09:17 PM
he got JJ-10's
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