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09-17-2009 , 08:34 AM
Ok villain is pretty dormant not playing hardly any pots. Has been min raising his BTN a little. Now this happens. Ok so I'm not going to fold this to someone who is clearly awful. So who calls this and who folds?


Full Tilt Poker $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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CO: $19.69
BTN: $4.93
SB: $15.64
Hero (BB): $5.27
UTG: $2.30
MP: $5.07

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BB with J J
3 folds, BTN raises to $4.93 all in, 1 fold, Hero ???
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09-17-2009 , 08:37 AM
Although I have no idea what dormant means I would call this too most of the time
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09-17-2009 , 08:41 AM
How many hands do you have on him? If he is very nity and plays very few hands over a largeish sample I'll probably fold and wait for a better spot seeing as you have no money invested in the pot.
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09-17-2009 , 08:42 AM
Call
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09-17-2009 , 09:11 AM
Whats wrong with folding here? There is nothing invested and I don't see how we could be way ahead.
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09-17-2009 , 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by kuhi
Whats wrong with folding here? There is nothing invested and I don't see how we could be way ahead.
Quote:
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Nothing "wrong" with folding tho
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09-17-2009 , 09:16 AM
There's no right or wrong answer here.
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09-17-2009 , 09:17 AM
Don't mind calling or folding or raising.
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09-17-2009 , 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by absolutefish
Don't mind calling or folding or raising.
Raising???
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09-17-2009 , 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by absolutefish
Don't mind calling or folding or raising.
Raising sounds as the correct answer
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09-17-2009 , 09:19 AM
Darn, I didn't even consider raising. Yes. raising is correct.
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09-17-2009 , 12:47 PM
i call . Its spewy by villain , hes going to have Ax a lot of the time here
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09-17-2009 , 01:28 PM
OK so imagine the villain is 20/18 over a reasonable sample what sort of range of hands would we have to have to call this? Are we talking TT+, AQ+?

Full Tilt Poker $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

CO: $19.69
BTN: $4.93
SB: $15.64
Hero (BB): $5.27
UTG: $2.30
MP: $5.07

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BB with X X:
3 folds, BTN raises to $4.93 all in, 1 fold, Hero .....
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09-17-2009 , 01:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spraggy
OK so imagine the villain is 20/18 over a reasonable sample what sort of range of hands would we have to have to call this? Are we talking TT+, AQ+?

Full Tilt Poker $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

CO: $19.69
BTN: $4.93
SB: $15.64
Hero (BB): $5.27
UTG: $2.30
MP: $5.07

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BB with X X:
3 folds, BTN raises to $4.93 all in, 1 fold, Hero .....
Kx+ because itīs gotta be a missclick.

Seriously, no thinking player is open shoving pf, so it isnīt worth thinking about it
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09-17-2009 , 01:49 PM
lol
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09-17-2009 , 01:49 PM
Reads are important here. Sometime you can clearly see people on tilt or open shoving a lot of hands. Then I am snap calling. But since there are no reads I am folding this. Did you know that there are people who say that they can make money at micro stakes by folding all and open shoving KK,AA and pretty much folding else.

I am not interested in doing flips against AK,AQ, because I have to pay rake for the huge pot anyway.
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