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08-21-2011 , 08:00 PM
4 hands on villain, so no reads or useful stats.
Only thing useful to know is that he limps pf, as you should be able to see.

I feel that my turn call against his minraise was a bad play. But should I just shove here?

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (SB) ($6)
BB ($2)
UTG ($6.08)
MP ($5.07)
Button ($5.27)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K, K
UTG calls $0.05, 2 folds, Hero bets $0.20, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.17

Flop: ($0.49) 4, 2, J (2 players)
Hero bets $0.38, UTG calls $0.38

Turn: ($1.25) 10 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.94, UTG raises $1.88, Hero calls $0.94

River: ($5.01) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $3.60 (All-In), Hero folds

Total pot: $5.01
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08-21-2011 , 08:06 PM
Raise more Pre. Bet turn is fine but fold to the raise trust me they are never bluffing this but just dont know how to play it... The amount of money ive leaked by thinking its just a minraise at these limits is unreal... seriously they always have it
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08-21-2011 , 08:09 PM
Pre: More, 25c at a bare minimum, probably more as you both have 120bb and you're oop.

Flop: Fine

Turn: I think with no reads or stats, we might have to let it go here; if we had the K we might consider shoving. We are getting pushed off our hand a percentage of the time, but I don't think this is a board I want to be getting too pissy aggro just cos I haz KK, as much as the min raise infuriates me.

The more I think about it, the more I wonder if I even want to bet the turn, I think a lot of villains might make more mistakes trying to bluff the turn than by calling too much...
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08-22-2011 , 01:25 AM
Pre-flop 4x the single limper is standard for me.

I think the Baluga theorem applies to microstakes just as well as it does for bigger games.
Basically, if you've been the aggressor, but then get raised on the turn, you're losing. At the very least, villain hit 2pr on the turn, and may have even flopped the flush.
When he raised the turn, you knew that you'd check the river (unless it was your 2-outer), and you'd fold to his shove, so you may as well have folded on the turn.
It's always so tough to fold an overpair though, especially kings. I can't remember the last time I did it!
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08-22-2011 , 07:12 AM
Never call a bet with the intention of folding on the next street... As played you can never fold that river? A deuce didn't help him... You should fold the turn (for all the reasons above) and as played you should call the river.
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08-22-2011 , 07:44 AM
I tend to assume unknowns are not ******ed and not running multi-street bluffs until they prove me wrong. Based on these assumptions, what does he do this with that you beat?

Nothing really, if he was the kind to get frisky with draws presumably he would have done that on the flop. I think he has it, if he is a maniac you will know soon and can jam next time you have a hand.
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