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12-09-2019 , 07:11 PM
PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com


MP: 104 BB (VPIP: 26.67, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 48)
Hero (CO): 179.8 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has J J
fold, MP raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 8.8 BB, fold, fold, fold, MP calls 5.8 BB

Flop : (19 BB, 2 players) 7 Q 9
MP checks, Hero bets 6 BB, MP raises to 23 BB, hero??

preflop? : was the 3bet a bit to loose??
flop : I bet small to protect my hand against FD or over cards would a check been better? or should i bet larger to protect my hand like 50-60%??

what do you guys think?
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12-09-2019 , 07:48 PM
well you're not betting often ip and JJ/TT look like prime candidates to x/ flop
normally you'd call one but I don't think you have to
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12-10-2019 , 03:20 AM
Pre is good imo.

Check flop.
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12-10-2019 , 01:22 PM
This isn't the board to bet range on. We want to x back some hands, and JJ is one of them.

When this guy calls pre I think his range is mostly 77-JJ, as well as AQs, AJs, KQs. While you've TT+, AK, AQs, maybe some AQo, AJs, ATs, A2-A5s, KQs, some low suited connectors like 65s. His range is much stronger than yours, his % of hands that want to play for stacks have yours dominated, so it doesn't make any sense to range cbet.

You say you want to protect against flush draws, but think about it, what flush draws does this guy have when calling your pre-flop 3bet MP vs CO ? Imo a very common leak that many micro-stakes players have (me included) is focusing on a small part of Villains range (particularly draws), while ignoring the rest of his range.

There is absolutely no reason to be betting this particular combo. You don't get called by worse, and you don't deny equity from anything. Maybe you think you get value from JT, AJdd, but he's probably raising those along with his sets, and you have to fold.

In theory, V should be donking this board at a very high frequency, maybe his entire range, yet if he knows you will cbet too much, he can exploit you by x/raising a lot.
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12-10-2019 , 02:40 PM
raise pre is fine

betting flop was a big mistake when you have this SDV

forget protection when V has all the Qx he is going to want to protect

the need to build the pot with that hand was not even there after 3betting preflop

he doesnt have SDz in his range, he might rarely have AK he doesnt have AQ almost never has AJ and A10 so what protection are you looking for?

So you cant bet flop for protection and you cant bet flop for value because you never have 50%+ equity against villain calling range

tl dr betting flop was a big mistake
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12-10-2019 , 05:20 PM
Grunching. (And, full disclosure: re-learning NLHE after focusing on PLO for a long time.)

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Originally Posted by kwokc
preflop? : was the 3bet a bit to loose??
Very, very standard as far as I know.

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flop : I bet small to protect my hand against FD or over cards would a check been better? or should i bet larger to protect my hand like 50-60%??

what do you guys think?
I think the bet here is a mistake. Villain has a lot of combos they can call with (and also a good number of high-equity raises), and if they don't fold then their range ends up being quite strong. If we had Jd, betting becomes a little more compelling, but without it I really prefer a check.

If you check, you can get some thin value later. You don't want this pot to get much bigger.
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