Hi,

i was playing Vilain for 20m min or so. He is a reg and joined two tables. He is opening most of his buttons and played aggro oop too (3bet 23%, called 20%).

He was adapting to my 100 openraise Strategie quickly and i switched to minR cause he started 3betting more. I still minR 100 of buttons tho. I 3bet a lot myself and 4bet him once and he folded.

All in all the match was pretty aggro preflop.

Postflop: we don´t played many flops and if so - it was mostly "standard"(cbet/fold stuff) - i c/r him once on a 557cc Kd Ac River after i c/c the flop, turn goes chk/chk and he snap folded.


I caught him bluffing on Tx8 rb A (BDFD possible) T - when i chk back flop, call his turn and riverbet cause his line looks like a draw very much and he showed up with J9o.



I 2nd barreled a decent amount myself and get folds mostly.

But: within the last 5min i bumbed up the aggression level and c/r him on flop once (successfully), lead 3x into him and get 3 folds in srp´s and 3bet a few times and getting folds too.I guess my image was very aggro! All in all it seems i was running him over at least a bit !

Then the following hand happened:




Entraction $400.00 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (BB): $468.50
BTN/SB: $474.25

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is BB with T K
BTN/SB raises to $12, Hero calls $8

Flop: ($24.00) T 7 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets $18.00, Hero raises to $52, BTN/SB raises to $110, Hero calls $58

Turn: ($244.00) K (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB checks

River: ($244.00) J (2 players)
Hero bets $122.00, BTN/SB raises to $352.25, Hero calls $224.50 all in

Okay here we go:

Flop:

I think my hand is to strong to c/c and still strong enough to c/r - i could lead too but as i said: he folded to all my leads before...so i decided to chk this time.

This was my 2nd c/r on a flop so far so his 3bet on flop looks strong in a vacuum but given history it could be possible taht he trys to play back.

So once i get 3bet i think calling is best - there is no reason to believe he is 3betting flop light for value but a good reason to believe he is bluffing.

Turn:

Great card for to reasons:

1. if he was bluffing he might continue now cause board seems to develop scary
2. I improved myself

My plan was to c/c here again and properbly c/r river all in depending on river....

Once he chk back turn he is likly too:

-give up

or

- has a hand like JJ/QQ and no idea what to do.

I think first thing is more lily then second cause i expect most regs to bet QQ and JJ on turn or AT - is my assumption here wrong?

River:

SO Villain isn´t bluffing - if that would be his plan he´d do it on the turn i think. SO it looks like he got air (that he is unlikly to bluff himself) or something like QQ, JJ, AT or a weird played T like JT? - so i decided to valuebet myself - but more on smallish side.

Once i get shoved on he is repping close to nothing except maybe JJ?!? or JT -i had no clue but i think my hand is too strong to fold even if i think its unlikly he is ever bluffing here but u never know.

Whats ur thoughts?

gg

tizzl

This would be a very rare line for JT, JJ to take. I would say it's more likely for a hand like J7 or J5 to take this line, although that is also very rare. Personally I think he has AQ or Q9 and I doubt he's bluffing since it's unclear what he is repping and you could easily have 2p+.

gg

I agree...i forgot to mention Q9 myself too...

But i though he would bet Q9 on that turn card very often himself as a bluff cause he don´t has huge EQ to justify chk back turn when he might make me fold a better hand.

About J5 or J7 - even if he 3bet flop with that for whatever reason...raising that river is really stupid against my range caus eim unlikly calling worse.

I agree he is repping close to zero bluffs but his valuecombos are so small and i have a decent bluffcatcher hand (for the case he is shovng J7) that i decided call river is okay...

But even now its so hard for me to say if it is +ev...

Any further comments?

I'm guessing you called and got shown AQ?

I would probably call because although your range seems super strong he could valueshove worse two pairs here. Too bad if he was bluffing and got there somehow. He could also have KK that cheked turn for deception or something.

dont fold the nuts

i do not like ur river bet
i mean his hand looks like air ton of the time, when he check the turn he must have picked up something like pair, gutter or maybe checking something like AT, JJ-KK or air.
even something like gutter on the flop that decided to 3betit he could check the turn
so in the river his range is like missed draw(gutshots), a hand that he will VB and is worse than yours or Q9, AQ.
so i really prefer checking river and let him spazz. dont see ton of merit VB that river instead of letting him valuecut himself. dont think he will bluff often that river.
also i dont see u getting to this river and betting with a weak range i know ur bet is small and can induce somethings but you said u have run him over the last few minutes and usually if someone is beeb run over its because dont have the balls to pull a not reliable bluff

-- my english sucks --

This does not compute. How will Villain spazz if he won't "bluff often that river." lol.

nope - 85o...so sometimes handreading goes trough the window....

jam flop

i like how you played it and would timebank/shrug/call and probably get shown something worse often enough

meh, i think i fold to the jam. everything else looks fine tho

this is probly bad

Meanwhile i think my betsize sucks cause his callingrange should be inelastic so betting 3/4 pot is better i think. And if we bet 3/4 folding shouldn´t be a concern anymore given odds ;-)

Great contribution. When some1 says something like this without backing it up, i would lean towards trusting way better player, and in this case u r not even close to Barewire, so you better explain why you think so. Thanks.

did u consider leading turn at any point?

It's a very solid line by villain imo. Looks very strong and credible, really like his line. I'm not sure I like yours, without seeing him as capable of pulling this type of bluffs it looks kinda -EV on first sight (riverplay, rest is fine).

LOL

sorry is missede some words...

he will spazz if we check some % higher than if we bet and he jams(here he is not bluffing)

The only hands that makes logical sense are ones where villain had next to nothing on the flop and rivered a miracle (set or straight). Villain repping narrow range + not a huge nit = EZ CAWL.

yes i was also shocked by his post

fwiw PD, villain could be bluffing/value shoving worst
given this assumption and the pot odds, i think folding is probly bad (bad = wrong, wrong = 50.01%+ not right)

sorry
didnt think id have to explain since other posters already thought this stuff out, my reasoning seemed pretty basic/obvious