Two confusing situations I had today in quick succession with KK. I just want to make sure that my folds were correct in these two plays.


1. Villain is 42/4 over 45 hands and donk bets 20% (5) of the time. I felt he had either hit with A4 or 88 because of the size of the bet but maybe he could have done it with 99+. With a poor read is this a correct fold?


$0.02/$0.04 No Limit Holdem
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Stacks:
UTG JensT ($14.31)
UTG+1 Thor211 ($6.15)
CO kLvbV ($3.74)
BTN Hero ($6.77)
SB eog ($3.87)
BB 020399 ($4.84)

Pre-Flop: ($0.06, 6 players) Hero is BTN K K
JensT calls $0.04, Thor211 calls $0.04, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.22, eog calls $0.20, 1 fold, JensT calls $0.18, Thor211 calls $0.18

Flop: 4 8 4 ($0.92, 4 players)
eog bets $0.92, 2 folds, Hero folds

Final Pot: $1.84



2. Villain had been very taggy on this table at 28/7 with 64% fold to cbet. I'm guessing now I should have raised the flop higher. Hands that beat me are AA slowplayed, A8 but I am not sure if he would have played AJ the same way or QQ if he thought I was cbetting with air. I know I may be reading too much into this hand but I think this guy is pretty solid.

$0.02/$0.04 No Limit Holdem
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Stacks:
UTG Stoneystone ($6.44)
CO oshea ($5.42)
BTN luciano0707 ($5.06)
SB Hero ($4.79)
BB JJ Dynamite ($3.08)

Pre-Flop: ($0.06, 5 players) Hero is SB K K
Stoneystone calls $0.04, 1 fold, luciano0707 calls $0.04, Hero raises to $0.20, 1 fold, Stoneystone folds, luciano0707 calls $0.16

Flop: 6 J 9 ($0.50, 2 players)
Hero bets $0.48, luciano0707 calls $0.48

Turn: 7 ($1.46, 2 players)
Hero bets $1.44, luciano0707 calls $1.44

River: 5 ($4.34, 2 players)
Hero checks, luciano0707 bets $2.94, Hero folds

the 1st fold is not very good. you should also consider the fact that if he had such a strong hand on the flop, he would want you to keep on betting since he would have a total lock on teh hand. also, like u said, he could easily be doing this w/ a worse hand...even QQ is worse than your hand

Both hands are horrible folds imo. Im never folding any of these vs any villain.

never ever ever fold hand 1 raise get it in you beat so many hands

hand 2 might be a good fold but i call without reads

hand 1 villian could easily do this with an 8 or 99-QQ

hand 2 why aren't we betting OTR? the only hand i'm really afraid of here is 108 and i feel like he'd rr us OTT with it.

Hand 1 I raise and get it in. If he bluffs a lot you could call and let him keep betting. Dont fold ever

Hand 2 Dont fold getting 3/1. Id probably just shove, but if he is likely to bet c/c is ok. And 28/7 is not a TAG

28/7 is not a Tag and never fold hand 1

oh and i'd bet river for value

Hand 1, at these stakes you cannot fold this one. maybe call, and push turn, or raise straight the flop. If he really got a 88 or a 4 (pretty sure he hasn't) it's a cooler

Hand 2, played good pre + flop + turn, push river, you get called from worser hands. People like to make hero calls at these stakes when you push all streets