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NL30: AA vs min raise on flop NL30: AA vs min raise on flop

10-19-2008 , 06:43 AM
$0.15/$0.30 No Limit Holdem
9 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG SJ.M ($5.85)
UTG+1 Hero ($30.00)
MP1 Teyma2008 ($29.97)
MP2 JZ3000 ($5.71)
MP3 wanzerg ($32.55)
CO ankolal ($28.63)
BTN Neko10 ($36.41)
SB bridgyy ($28.86)
BB highcard.2 ($30.00)

Pre-flop: ($0.45, 9 players) Hero is UTG+1 A A
1 fold, Hero bets $1.05, 4 folds, Neko10 calls $1.05, 2 folds

Flop: K 9 2 ($2.55, 2 players)
Hero bets $1.80, Neko10 bets $3.60, Hero calls $1.80

Turn: J ($9.75, 2 players)
Hero checks, Neko10 bets $7.35, Hero calls $7.35

River: Q ($24.45, 2 players)
Hero checks, Neko10 goes all-in $24.41, Hero folds


I was totaly lost on this hand. Villain here is 17/8 with AF 2.2 after 1.3k hands. I really hate min raises because mostly I see that they mean sets here. What is your line here guys? Raise flop/and fold...raise and call? I noticed that w/ TPTK most guys are just calling flop, not raising here.
I call flop to reevaluate on turn my hand, and I hit flushdraw..., but it`s profitable to call this bet here ? If the 4th heart will hit the river will he still pays me ?
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10-19-2008 , 06:48 AM
bet bigger on the flop. A c/r there can mean anything from a flushdraw to a TP. With another heart on the turn and the Ah in your hand, I think the line is good.
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10-19-2008 , 07:03 AM
Not sure about the stats, I just got PT, but I am assuming an AF of 2.2 means not too aggressive??. Therefore, I think ur right when you considered a set because of the minraise. I run into the same min-raise situation often and I am usually behind. I know for sure when I call and wind up posting the hand on here for evaluation because I lost. It seems to me like if he had top pair he might have reraised a little more on the flop to protect it. For him to minraise in that situation with only top pair would just be asking for trouble seeing as you raised UTG preflop imo. I could see him either having KK or
99.
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10-19-2008 , 07:06 AM
AF of 2.2 is solid aggression. Villain is nitty and raises too little pf and plays aggressively postflop. IMO on the flop he could easily have hands like KQs, KJs, QJs, JTs, maybe even AK. He's not necessarily having the fd with his suited hands.
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10-19-2008 , 07:35 AM
raise 3.5-4x on flop
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10-19-2008 , 08:53 AM
I would fold to the river shove cuz whatever he is shoving (flush, set, or 2pr) it beats AA. I would pot the flop due to the draws. Everything else seems fine.
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10-19-2008 , 07:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Genz
AF of 2.2 is solid aggression. Villain is nitty and raises too little pf and plays aggressively postflop. IMO on the flop he could easily have hands like KQs, KJs, QJs, JTs, maybe even AK. He's not necessarily having the fd with his suited hands.
Thanks for the correction on the aggression stats. I have yet to go over the entire post of how to use PT stats.
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10-19-2008 , 08:11 PM
Shove or fold the turn IMO, flatting is bad.
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10-19-2008 , 10:39 PM
Either 3bet the flop and get it in, or play it like you did. Both are fine.

Btw call is the only correct move on the turn.
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10-20-2008 , 12:40 AM
3bet the flop?
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10-20-2008 , 12:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eddi
Either 3bet the flop and get it in, or play it like you did. Both are fine.

Btw call is the only correct move on the turn.
i agree on 3bet flop.

by the river u r most definitely beat, but i wouldnt say calling is the only move on the turn. we have the A i very well could be shoving here.

river as played is def fold
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