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09-25-2015 , 04:18 AM
Villain is 30/23 (big sample) - fairly agro @ 4.9 but didn't pay attention to his river agg% in game

Are we happy stationing as played?

He shouldn't be betting Jx ott and he doesn't have many credible flushes in his range. Also I expect him to fast play all his nutted stuff otf.



    Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    BTN: $218.08 (872.3 bb)
    SB: $25 (100 bb)
    BB: $41.58 (166.3 bb)
    Hero (UTG): $25.65 (102.6 bb)
    MP: $16.40 (65.6 bb)
    CO: $25 (100 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with K Q
    Hero raises to $0.75, MP folds, CO calls $0.75, 3 folds

    Flop: ($1.85) 3 9 J (2 players)
    Hero bets $1.13, CO calls $1.13

    Turn: ($4.11) Q (2 players)
    Hero checks, CO bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50

    River: ($9.11) J (2 players)
    Hero checks, CO bets $4.43, Hero calls $4.43

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    09-25-2015 , 06:41 AM
    I think they dont bluff even at nl25 with this line and esp size at river, i often made to thin river calls, but mostly i was just beaten.
    Flush is there, J has you, many cards would take a showdown like TT, some random floats you beat, yes Riveraggresion is an important value to make decissions here.
    Turn a bet should take in consideration
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    09-25-2015 , 07:25 AM
    Your line looks like Jx or perhaps overpair so I think I'd fold if I'm playing well - although the river bet is pretty small
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    09-25-2015 , 07:46 AM
    Why do you think he has few credible flushes?

    I personally would think this runout favours the IP callers range strongly. I think he has a bunch of flushes and straights, plus he has QJ , which may never be in your range utg.

    I'd cbet turn and check/fold that river.
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    09-25-2015 , 07:51 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ian_944
    Why do you think he has few credible flushes
    He flats an UTG raise from CO. We block Kc. So he has AJcc, ATcc and thats it - two combos.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ian_944
    I personally would think this runout favours the IP callers range strongly. I think he has a bunch of flushes and straights, plus he has QJ , which may never be in your range utg.

    I'd cbet turn and check/fold that river.
    Cbet turn will likely be bad as we can easily get raised off a hand which has ok equity against almost everything. Further to this there aren't many hands a turn bet will get value from.
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    09-25-2015 , 08:15 AM
    ^ ty CCM - this spot would be a little tricky if villain was on BTN.
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    09-25-2015 , 08:52 AM
    i play it the same, would also call a bigger river bet than this. Like you said Jx isnt betting turn and there are only a few flushes. I think we have to call this combo else we overfold in this line, though idk how you play flop with your range.
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    09-25-2015 , 08:56 AM
    c/c or c/r flop

    betting is meh
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    09-25-2015 , 09:19 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by CCM
    He flats an UTG raise from CO. We block Kc. So he has AJcc, ATcc and thats it - two combos.



    Cbet turn will likely be bad as we can easily get raised off a hand which has ok equity against almost everything. Further to this there aren't many hands a turn bet will get value from.
    Fair shout on the CO range, though my gut still thinks we could see more JTs, QJs hands esp. If BTN isn't too squeeze happy. But maybe I'm just reluctant to give up my line of thought

    My turn cbet was based on the thought that a) there are more Jx hands we can get value from than I suspect you have put in his range and b) it's not obvious to me what combos V is calling flop with that he will turn into a bluff on that turn card. I'm not convinced it's a spot where the average nl25 reg is close to balanced. But maybe again, more credit is due than that.
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    09-25-2015 , 07:12 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ian_944
    Fair shout on the CO range, though my gut still thinks we could see more JTs, QJs hands esp. If BTN isn't too squeeze happy. But maybe I'm just reluctant to give up my line of thought

    My turn cbet was based on the thought that a) there are more Jx hands we can get value from than I suspect you have put in his range and b) it's not obvious to me what combos V is calling flop with that he will turn into a bluff on that turn card. I'm not convinced it's a spot where the average nl25 reg is close to balanced. But maybe again, more credit is due than that.
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    09-26-2015 , 11:42 AM
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    Originally Posted by lvr
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    Nothing profound, i was just thinking my ego was getting in the way of listening to someone's opinion.
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