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07-27-2014 , 07:26 PM
1. i know i can 3bet pre. but given villains stats i wanted to keep his bluffs in so i called
2. some of you may criticize me for calling his flop 3bet, but i think im still getting good odds to call cos its only $2.25 more into a pot of $7+
3. i pick up a gutshot on the turn that gives me 12 outs or rougly 25% equity against his whole range. given that im getting a price of about 1:3 ($6.88 into a pot of $16.68) and villain is likely to stack off if i hit my draw... should i call/shove turn?


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $24.65 (VPIP: 30.77, PFR: 23.08, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 13)
SB: $26.02 (VPIP: 8.70, PFR: 4.35, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 47)
Hero (BB): $39.79
UTG: $34.80 (VPIP: 21.43, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 44)
MP: $19.33 (VPIP: 36.84, PFR: 15.79, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)
CO: $24.65 (VPIP: 25.71, PFR: 25.71, 3Bet Preflop: 13.33, Hands: 36)

SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has Q A

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.50, 2 players) 8 2 3
SB bets $1.00, Hero raises to $2.00, SB raises to $4.25, Hero calls $2.25

Turn: ($10.00, 2 players) 5
SB bets $6.68, Hero ???
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07-27-2014 , 07:51 PM
Why the small reraise on the flop. If you reraise do it bigger. Think flatting the flop is even better.
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07-27-2014 , 07:54 PM
unless im missing something get it in on the flop you have the nut FD and 2 overcards.

Oh i see the guy is a uber nit. Just call the turn
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07-27-2014 , 08:10 PM
Call flop instead of this weird minraise. What are you trying to achieve?
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07-27-2014 , 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Patje90
Call flop instead of this weird minraise. What are you trying to achieve?
excellent point. i must have been randomly clicking buttons again (happens to me like 90% of the time... lol) in retrospect i think i should have raised more or not raise at all

may i also ask what is your opinion on how turn should be played?
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07-27-2014 , 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by hnsmht
excellent point. i must have been randomly clicking buttons again (happens to me like 90% of the time... lol) in retrospect i think i should have raised more or not raise at all

may i also ask what is your opinion on how turn should be played?
Since your initial reasoning for not 3betting is: *he's a nit*, you should raise or call flop. I would of called flop based on your initial read.

As played, raising is out of question since villain really like his hand and he's not going to fold. I'm calling this (around 2.5:1 odds) and betting/raising the river for value if I hit a club other than 3. If the 3c hits, i'm check calling reasonnable bet.
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07-28-2014 , 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by hnsmht

may i also ask what is your opinion on how turn should be played?
As played is a call. We almost have the direct odds, but the implied odds makes this a call. Raising is not good since I expect to have no fe.
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07-28-2014 , 05:12 AM
Raising flop is pretty bad IMO. Guy has loads of overpairs in his range that won't be folding, and we've got a good chance of extracting more money from him when we hit anyway.
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07-28-2014 , 05:55 AM
A bvb spot, otf IMO you're actually going to be in front a fair amount. Raising folds out bluffs and opens the betting for stronger hands to come back over with a bet. Turn I think it's ok to just call and realize your equity as played. The gut shot OTT isn't anything to be excited about since it's going to be obvious if you hit it and raise or bet otr, so I'd exclude that as implies odds
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