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NL25 zoom Good 4bet and cbet? NL25 zoom Good 4bet and cbet?

02-25-2018 , 11:46 AM
Opponnent was a 23/20 with a 3bet of 8% after 183 hands

I 4bet KQ since it has good blockers and BU vs CO is a situation where I except 3bettingranges to be quite wide. Im not sure what my 4bsizing should be this deep.

On the flop I thought my GS and BDFD makes this hand good as a cbet. I also expect villian to call the 4bet lighter this deep, so his range isnt as strong as a 4bet getting called 100BB deep. Is this too loose a cbet?


    Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37931778

    BTN: $54.39 (217.6 bb)
    SB: $14.99 (60 bb)
    BB: $17.87 (71.5 bb)
    UTG: $73.90 (295.6 bb)
    MP: $42.63 (170.5 bb)
    Hero (CO): $60.27 (241.1 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with Q K
    2 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, BTN raises to $2.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $6, BTN calls $3.50

    Flop: ($12.35) J 9 2 (2 players)
    Hero bets $7, BTN folds

    Spoiler:
    Results: $12.35 pot ($0.56 rake)
    Final Board: J 9 2
    BTN mucked and lost (-$6 net)
    Hero mucked Q K and won $11.79 ($5.79 net)



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    NL25 zoom Good 4bet and cbet? Quote
    02-25-2018 , 11:47 AM
    plz stop posting results. they make no difference to anyone except for putting bias into posts you receive.
    NL25 zoom Good 4bet and cbet? Quote
    02-25-2018 , 11:52 AM
    OK I will stop that, sorry!
    NL25 zoom Good 4bet and cbet? Quote
    02-25-2018 , 12:41 PM
    Do we necessarily want/need a 4bet bluff range +200bbs deep since 4bet bluffs hands generally make good flats? If we do though then this could be in it since flatting isnt great but def toward top of folding range.
    Btn has sets 9s, Js, maybe 2s, on this flop, we (as in the average reg) had no sets since we wouldn't be 4 betting, therefore I prefer a smaller bet. As well when we have ace / kings/Qs we will be betting smaller or checking out of position perhaps. So I think a cbet is OK but like 3.50 or 4 or something.
    NL25 zoom Good 4bet and cbet? Quote
    02-26-2018 , 03:28 AM
    I dont understand ur urge to 4bet bluff every single hand (been reading ur other hand posts). Please elaborate this if Im wrong.

    Def good board to cbet w/ 2 overs, GS, BDFD (in general)

    Hate the sizing tho. U have to fold ur equity vs reraise here and I think u should be betting more polarised range in this kinda board textures.
    NL25 zoom Good 4bet and cbet? Quote
    02-26-2018 , 05:10 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AltoZZ
    I dont understand ur urge to 4bet bluff every single hand (been reading ur other hand posts). Please elaborate this if Im wrong.

    Def good board to cbet w/ 2 overs, GS, BDFD (in general)

    Hate the sizing tho. U have to fold ur equity vs reraise here and I think u should be betting more polarised range in this kinda board textures.
    I actually don't 4bet that much. It's something that I'm a bit insecure about, hence me posting this 4bethands to see if I'm doing it right yeah thank you the sizing is way to big, we try to fold out overcards and weak PP's right? A smaller sizing achieves that as well
    NL25 zoom Good 4bet and cbet? Quote
    02-26-2018 , 07:11 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Andy Art
    I actually don't 4bet that much. It's something that I'm a bit insecure about, hence me posting this 4bethands to see if I'm doing it right yeah thank you the sizing is way to big, we try to fold out overcards and weak PP's right? A smaller sizing achieves that as well
    Think this is kinda bad spot to be 4b bluffing. U r pretty deep and u r OOP.
    Flatting w/ KQs, not a big fan on 4betting it since we might have to fold out our equity vs possible 5b.

    And more I think of this, I cant see that many hands on V range that will fold to single barrel [maybe AQ/AK and some other small Axs].
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