Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 29526
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Hero (BB): $24.90
UTG: $38.70
CO: $25.75
BTN: $25.65
SB: $59.75

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with A J
3 folds, SB raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2.50, SB calls $1.75

Flop: ($5.00) J K 6 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3.25, SB calls $3.25

Turn: ($11.50) K (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($11.50) T (2 players)
SB bets $20, Hero ???

Okay so here I have a situation against a player who plays very strangely here are his stats: 53/24/2.7

this player is a total ****** so i think he may shove a good made hand here therefore i fold.

pretty close though. i think you need expirience in this spot and i dont have any... so fwiw

er - i don't get it - why would you ever think about calling this? he could have the K, he could have the diamonds, he could have AQ for the straight. This does not look like a bluff to me.

Of course there are always hands that can beat you but do you really think he would shove allin such a hand?? I think AQ would have been 4bet preflop (he did this a lot) any king would bet the turn cause of the flush so thats why I'm wondering here maybe I have the best hand... To me it seems like a bet who doesnt want a call... what do you think?

Yeah but the odds are so bad that you have to be right a lot of the time. Not sure tbh, I'd probably just let it go.

Yeah that's what I thought I had to be right very often but somehow I really had the feeling to be ahead so I called and he showed QJ... I dont know if its well played or very dumb thats why I wanted your opinions

Obviously it was a good choice in this situation but I should really stop trying to make hero calls like that :s

It's not a bad play to overbet the river with the nuts, or near nuts at this level as people will stack off often enough with rather weak holdings.

I dont seen how you can call here. There is so much that can beat you. I see this all the time where he checks turn hoping you will bet but you do nothing so he pushes river. In my scenerios he usually always has a better hand. FOLD

Is it good or terrible to shove like villian here with AK or very good diamonds (more often than AK) on that board because sometimes I do it hoping to be called by marginally worse (any lower flush is calling, idiots call with any K), and way-worse hands are probably folding a 2/3PSB anyhow.

I've done it but I play 10nl.

From OPs point of view I def def fold.

Hey,

IMHO this is close between a fold or a call. First off, I can probably rule out a king, a K would bet pot size or less. Villain might have a set of 10's, so thats in the back of my mind. Villain could also have a straight, but it's unlikely he would push all in with this hand. Since he called your flop raise, it means he has a piece of the board or a flush draw. check , check on the turn , you can rule out a K. Now an all in on the river.. doesnt really make sense. I would probably put him on a J... since the villain thinks he must have the best hand!, it went check on the turn, so he knows u don't have a K. Since you have the J with best kicker, its reasonable to call here. Also not villain plays a wide range of hands and is play somewhat aggresively. He could be raising all- in with anything.

I think I would call more times than I fold here just cause villains line is way out control. Purely because he shoved all in the river, and ppl with the nuts/boat would value here. And my experience in these situations is villain generally has 2nd pair or 3rd pair in this situation. I don't like folding here( it's prob 60/40 call/fold), because it leaves me vunerable to further agression, and plus i get to go with my gut feeling here.

excellent analysis. looking at this player's stats -- having this particular
"feel" -- correctly discerning he doesn't have a king ( since the 2nd one showed up, that is... ) --- makes total sense --- that's why we study all this carp.

nice call.

I think perhaps you guys are overanalysing the fact that there is a second K which yes, does make it less likely he has a K - but you'll find that generally speaking players are incapable of overbet shoving the river without a very strong hand. It takes way more balls to do this as a bluff, and I think readless this is generally a fold.

He could very well have been going for a turn c/r with trips and is now just thinking "damn, I want to get value for my hand so I'll overbet". He could have a set, KJ, AQ, Kx.

Since you didn't bet the turn this is pretty tricky. I would always bet the turn here because villains range so big he really doesn't have to have the flush. If you get check-raised on the turn you can just dump the hand.

I think villain could have QT here, but since I suck would probably fold to that river-bet.

I think betting the turn here is bad because there aren't a great deal of worse hands he calls with and he's never folding a better hand (he never folds trips or a flush) to our bet.

If we bet the turn for value, what hands do we get value from? Worse Js, QT and one card flush draws mostly, which is a pretty small range. I like the turn check because it helps keep the pot smaller and I just feel like betting doesn't accomplish much here.