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04-30-2011 , 02:44 PM
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    Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #9234212

    UTG: $20 (80 bb)
    MP: $25.95 (103.8 bb)
    CO: $25 (100 bb)
    Hero (BTN): $24.65 (98.6 bb)
    SB: $14.83 (59.3 bb)
    BB: $27 (108 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q Q
    3 folds, Hero raises to $0.60, SB folds, BB raises to $2.25, Hero calls $1.65

    Flop: ($4.60) 5 3 4 (2 players)
    BB bets $2.95, Hero raises to $10, BB folds

    Spoiler:
    Results: $10.50 pot ($0.51 rake)
    Final Board: 5 3 4
    Hero mucked Q Q and won $9.99 ($4.79 net)
    BB mucked and lost (-$5.20 net)



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    first hand at the table...


    thx for comments
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    04-30-2011 , 03:07 PM
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    This seems straightforward and well played. I'm mean, what's the question here? The villain's most likely holding is AK.
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    04-30-2011 , 03:29 PM
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    stackoff.
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    04-30-2011 , 07:10 PM
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    Raise seems bad because your turning your hand into a bluff. Versus a villian with no reads you want to keep his worse range still in. His airs and worse pairs. raising makes him fold out his worse hands and allows him to get it in ahead of you. Sure your hand needs protection. But don't be afraid to play post flop.
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    04-30-2011 , 07:47 PM
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    Quote:
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    stackoff.
    this
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    04-30-2011 , 08:51 PM
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    Quote:
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    This seems straightforward and well played. I'm mean, what's the question here? The villain's most likely holding is AK.
    AK is not folding here.
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    04-30-2011 , 08:58 PM
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ckYAself
    Raise seems bad because your turning your hand into a bluff. Versus a villian with no reads you want to keep his worse range still in. His airs and worse pairs. raising makes him fold out his worse hands and allows him to get it in ahead of you. Sure your hand needs protection. But don't be afraid to play post flop.
    do you actually think this guy is folding TT-QQ?

    edit: 99-JJ. you get the idea.
    Last edited by apathy6907; 04-30-2011 at 09:18 PM.
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    05-01-2011 , 03:23 PM
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    im folding flop readless
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    05-01-2011 , 04:35 PM
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    Quote:
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    Raise seems bad because your turning your hand into a bluff.
    Quote:
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    im folding flop readless
    Are these elaborate levels or just really, really bad advice?

    Flatting is an ok option, but so much of villain's range for 3 betting pre/cbetting this flop is stacking off now if you raise (but may not on future streets)-Ax/draws/weaker overpairs etc. Sizing should be smaller though so he has the illusion of some FE and more incentive to jam non-made hands. $7 or so seems good.
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    05-01-2011 , 04:45 PM
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    Quote:
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    AK is not folding here.
    what?
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    05-01-2011 , 05:19 PM
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Cash Beast Ezra
    Are these elaborate levels or just really, really bad advice?

    Flatting is an ok option, but so much of villain's range for 3 betting pre/cbetting this flop is stacking off now if you raise (but may not on future streets)-Ax/draws/weaker overpairs etc. Sizing should be smaller though so he has the illusion of some FE and more incentive to jam non-made hands. $7 or so seems good.
    I don't like flatting either but if all the money goes in now we are not necessarily ahead of his range. Many of his drawing hands are either ahead of us or not far behind. It depends on how often he is willing to stack off with overpairs. If we flat there are so many scared cards that are likely to kill the action if he doesn't improve.
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    05-01-2011 , 05:23 PM
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    what is going on in this thread >_>
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    05-01-2011 , 05:28 PM
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    well played sir, no nothing to discuss here move along people


    except turn on auto rebuy to 100bb
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    05-02-2011 , 02:29 AM
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Cash Beast Ezra
    Are these elaborate levels or just really, really bad advice?

    Flatting is an ok option, but so much of villain's range for 3 betting pre/cbetting this flop is stacking off now if you raise (but may not on future streets)-Ax/draws/weaker overpairs etc. Sizing should be smaller though so he has the illusion of some FE and more incentive to jam non-made hands. $7 or so seems good.
    yea my bad - i misread the hand history at 3am in the morning - thought he was the one being raised!
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