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07-21-2017 , 05:38 AM
Villain is a bad Reg (23/14/2) pretty passive overall
Feel like i completely screwed this hand up, think i should have bet OTF to get value from draws and Jx, Ax and bet folded OTT and checked River...
IMO we mostly get called by some PPs like 99,88, Jx and mainly straight and flush draws OTT.
OTR I dont think we get value from many weaker hands and open ourselves up to get bluffed specially with the relatively large bet sizing, since busted draws are a large part of our range.

What u guys think?

PokerStars - €0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (CO): 101.52 BB
BTN: 138.4 BB (VPIP: 20.99, PFR: 16.43, 3Bet Preflop: 4.96, Hands: 1,072)
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 22.94, PFR: 18.35, 3Bet Preflop: 2.56, Hands: 221)
BB: 101.4 BB (VPIP: 22.77, PFR: 14.21, 3Bet Preflop: 2.31, Hands: 906)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has T A

Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (6.4 BB, 2 players) A J 2
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (6.4 BB, 2 players) J
BB checks, Hero bets 3.64 BB, BB calls 3.64 BB

River: (13.68 BB, 2 players) 9
BB checks, Hero bets 7.76 BB, BB raises to 50.48 BB, fold,
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07-21-2017 , 06:04 AM
I prefer b/b/x CO vs BTN here because we are losing only too a very small part of villains range (AQ may 3B pre sometimes) and villain has enough Ax/Jx calling two streets here (wouldn't b/b/x on this turn though).

AP Turn bet is fine, but we should check back rivers, just too thin imo. So yeah, I think your analysis on the hand is pretty good.
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07-21-2017 , 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by ALongmuir
I prefer b/b/x CO vs BTN here because we are losing only too a very small part of villains range (AQ may 3B pre sometimes) and villain has enough Ax/Jx calling two streets here (wouldn't b/b/x on this turn though).

AP Turn bet is fine, but we should check back rivers, just too thin imo. So yeah, I think your analysis on the hand is pretty good.
I get conflicted on the line to take with Ax on A high boards. I used to always cbet but I've been checking a lot of flops HU which seems to get two streets from worse a lot of the time. I think betting flop and turn makes it harder to get called by worse aces on the second barrel unless you're against a station. The obvious trade is going with the delayed cbet usually means your opponent gets to see all five cards which sometimes bites you. Board texture and player type (my opponent) is generally what I use to determine which option is best.

I don't know that the outcome of your hand plays much differently had you gone b/b/c versus the line you took. The only exception is if the BB had 99 and were to fold on the turn. But in all honesty had you bet the flop you probably shouldn't bet the turn. As played I wonder how many times you get looked up by a worse ace. I don't think you're getting called by a hand like TT/88 when you bet the river so I'm not even sure I would have bet it.
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07-21-2017 , 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Strappz
I get conflicted on the line to take with Ax on A high boards. I used to always cbet but I've been checking a lot of flops HU which seems to get two streets from worse a lot of the time. I think betting flop and turn makes it harder to get called by worse aces on the second barrel unless you're against a station. The obvious trade is going with the delayed cbet usually means your opponent gets to see all five cards which sometimes bites you. Board texture and player type (my opponent) is generally what I use to determine which option is best.
It really depends on your positions and ranges. CO vs BB where BB defends more Ax it's fine with AT (checking probs A9 and below) whereas MP vs CO, I'm checking AT. Calling with top pair over two streets doesn't make you a calling station lol, if villains are folding even a quarter of their Ax OTT they're way overfolding, like a ridiculous amount.

For the J turn, it wouldn't change if we would have bet or checked. But any heart, diamond would allow villains to get closer to realising there equity and e.g. say villain holds T8s, 9 comes on the turn, they're also closer to realising their equity, that they would have otherwise folded flop. Also there's plenty of value to be had too.
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07-21-2017 , 09:48 AM
Given your read on villain I think b/x/b is probably best, though I like the flop check vs. an unknown here.

I'm trying to decide if two streets of value is too thin as played - unless he calls two bets with like A5s, you're probably better off just checking back river.
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