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02-09-2011 , 05:49 PM
OPPO stats: 17/10/34 on 282 hands
HERO stats at the table: 15/6/56

Cereus Network - $0.25 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: $26.42
BB: $25.00
UTG: $8.75
UTG+1: $29.33
MP: $25.00
MP+1: $34.66
LP: $7.83
Hero (CO): $28.92
BTN: $25.25

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero has K Q

fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.75, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.75, fold, fold, fold

Flop: ($1.85, 2 players) 8 T J
UTG+1 bets $1.25, Hero calls $1.25

Turn: ($4.35, 2 players) 6
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $2.50, UTG+1 raises to $11.85, Hero ?
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02-09-2011 , 05:55 PM
smile and ship it
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02-09-2011 , 06:14 PM
You flopped a monster draw. Raise and get it in on the flop if possible. Turn is a no-brainer shove.
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02-09-2011 , 06:17 PM
raise flop. shove turn.
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02-09-2011 , 06:21 PM
Villain's line sure does look like a flush and there are zero flush combos in most UTG+1 open ranges here that don't include the ace. That being said, you have the third nuts and can't fold it. He will show up with sets & air some % of the time.

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oh and Asx type semi bluffs
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02-09-2011 , 06:22 PM
Change Hero stats.
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02-09-2011 , 06:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by conquistador28
Change Hero stats.
What do You mean?
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02-09-2011 , 07:00 PM
Shove. The only likely hand that beats you is AJs. I doubt the villain has 97s. I agree that you should have raised on the flop.
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02-09-2011 , 08:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CrazyBaz
What do You mean?
that 15/6 is quite awful. You limp/overlimp/calls too much if these are your normal stats.

And by the way....pre is not an auto call. Villain is raising 10% in general which usually means he is much tighter from EP. There are literally no worse Kx or Qx type of hands in his range but the dominating stuff against us is all there. So unless you really can let go on Kxx or Qxx I would think twice if I call against this player in this situation. And yes, raise flop and bet bigger OTT/shove. You can not fold this cause you cant put villain on only one combo...thats whats called MUBS.
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02-09-2011 , 08:36 PM
Raise flop with the intention of stacking off 100% on the flop.

As played shove all-in.

Pre-flop could be questionable if villians EP PFR is low.
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02-09-2011 , 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackRazor7
Raise flop with the intention of stacking off 100% on the flop.

As played shove all-in.

Pre-flop could be questionable if villians EP PFR is low.
+1

If you are not planning on getting it in on a this flop with KQs its probably best you just fold pre.
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02-09-2011 , 10:18 PM
fold pre.... raise flop>> call flop... shove turn and do a backflip
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02-10-2011 , 03:22 AM
I usually fold this pre vs UTG open.

I prefer to raise flop and get it in.

As played fist pump shove turn.
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02-10-2011 , 07:03 AM
Don't mind pre in position with a good SC...

As played shove and be happy... But yeah, raise flop. The only possible hand beating you (considering UTG raising ranges) would be AsJs (you having the Qs and Ks and the Ts being on the board).
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02-10-2011 , 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Messenjupp
that 15/6 is quite awful. You limp/overlimp/calls too much if these are your normal stats.

And by the way....pre is not an auto call. Villain is raising 10% in general which usually means he is much tighter from EP. There are literally no worse Kx or Qx type of hands in his range but the dominating stuff against us is all there. So unless you really can let go on Kxx or Qxx I would think twice if I call against this player in this situation. And yes, raise flop and bet bigger OTT/shove. You can not fold this cause you cant put villain on only one combo...thats whats called MUBS.
Ah, ok.. I agree with You about my stats at that table
In any case, among his 10% of pfr, most of his raise were made from EP.. That's why I started my hand with the intention to "trap" him..
So, said that probably my mistake is the call at flop, but as played, on the turn everybody agrees that it's a shove.. Right?
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02-10-2011 , 12:08 PM
am agree 15/6=moron
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02-10-2011 , 12:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CrazyBaz
What do You mean?
15/6=moron
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02-10-2011 , 01:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CrazyBaz
In any case, among his 10% of pfr, most of his raise were made from EP.. That's why I started my hand with the intention to "trap" him..
this makes no sense IMO. What do you mean you trap him? By calling pre? Does not make sense and also just calling the flop is not a trap since you only have KQ high so even AQ/AK or 99 have you beat....dont know where/how you want to trap?
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02-10-2011 , 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by dagrim1
Don't mind pre in position with a good SC...
I don't mind, either, if you're capable of folding when the board comes king high, rainbow, and you get checkraised or pot/pot/shoved.

True SCs like 89s are easier to play b/c they rarely flop top pair, and if they do you still play them cautiously b/c you have a crappy kicker and there are a zillion overpairs out there. KQs is much harder to play when you hit top pair because you end up giving action when you're dominated more frequently.

OP says that this villain raised frequently in EP, so I am more likely to call with KQs.

Postflop plays itself - you're a coinflip vs. aces and only a 3:2 dog vs. top set. Get your money in the middle.
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02-10-2011 , 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Messenjupp
this makes no sense IMO. What do you mean you trap him? By calling pre? Does not make sense and also just calling the flop is not a trap since you only have KQ high so even AQ/AK or 99 have you beat....dont know where/how you want to trap?
I agree with that, and my "" on the word trap were to give that word an ironical sound... In any case I know that I haven't played this hand in the best way..

I only called just because he raised many times from ep, and he also instant folded some of those raise to 3 bets.. i had a good hand and a good position and thought that just calling I could have had the chance to get more money from him with the right board (than i made a mistake on flop, and that's clear (that mistake had no influence on the result of that specific hand anyway)).
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