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12-13-2012 , 01:43 PM
first hand of the session so no stats, but villain is a tight reg


[converted_hand][hand_history]Boss, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players

SB: $20.46 (81.8 bb)
Hero (BB): $25 (100 bb)
CO: $24.50 (98 bb)
BTN: $24.65 (98.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K Q
CO folds, BTN raises to $0.75, SB folds, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.60) Q J J (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1.25, Hero calls $1.25

Turn: ($4.10) A (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $2.50, Hero?
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12-13-2012 , 01:53 PM
Prob fold, You lose to all KT, Jx, Ax hands and if he's tight he's probably going to not dub air without stats himself.
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12-14-2012 , 04:45 AM
so everyone fold here?
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12-14-2012 , 05:30 AM
bottom of our range not liking any river cards, yeah prob a fold
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12-14-2012 , 05:42 AM
I would fold to.

You have no real informations beside knowing that he's tight and you're OOP in the dark and he will most likely not bluff this kind of board (specialy considering he's tight). Wait for a better spot.
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12-14-2012 , 06:06 AM
I'd probably call and decide river. It'd obviously depend on how often he’s 2 barrelling. Most tight regs will 2 barrel especially on such a nice card. What I would probably ask myself is: How often is he opening the button? If its 30% then obviously that’s a pretty darn tight range however if it’s a more.. normal opening range from the button then lets not get too scared just yet. Obviously if he bets the river were folding but by calling we still have chance to stack a J or potentially chop/win the pot with a Q.
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12-14-2012 , 06:08 AM
oh btw:

If he's tight and you want to fold top pair in spots like this (presumably you’ve called for value from the blinds), maybe you should be 3betting this hand as a bluff. If you are calling out of the blinds for value and thinking of folding top pair, clearly your pre-flop rationale can not be correct, unless you are calling to stack him by hitting a straight?

Something to think about.
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12-14-2012 , 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Orzzzz
oh btw:

If he's tight and you want to fold top pair in spots like this (presumably you’ve called for value from the blinds), maybe you should be 3betting this hand as a bluff. If you are calling out of the blinds for value and thinking of folding top pair, clearly your pre-flop rationale can not be correct, unless you are calling to stack him by hitting a straight?

Something to think about.
sorry but I'm a little bit confused. what top pair? by the turn I dont have TP anymore. Anyways, sometimes I like to 3bet in this situation but I was statless and readless and I like to know who I'm 3betting.

I ended up calling turn btw because his bet seemed a little weak imo (slightly more than half pot whereas his flop cbet was 3/4 pot). river was another A and he fired 6 €. Thoughts on what to do?
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12-14-2012 , 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by bet bet... broke!
sorry but I'm a little bit confused. what top pair? by the turn I dont have TP anymore. Anyways, sometimes I like to 3bet in this situation but I was statless and readless and I like to know who I'm 3betting.

I ended up calling turn btw because his bet seemed a little weak imo (slightly more than half pot whereas his flop cbet was 3/4 pot). river was another A and he fired 6 €. Thoughts on what to do?
In terms of "having top pair". Are you happy that he cbets his entire range? I know we dont have "top pair" on the turn however do you always fold your top pair on the flop when an overcard comes? Just because an overcard has come it doesnt mean our villian has it, we must consider what that could be in his range. I know that i personally will just barrel most overcards on the turn with a large portion of my range to try and fold out hands. I wouldnt expect to be folding out hands such as yours though.


On the river, its so sigh. He can only have an A here unless he's bet/folding a J. I know you said you are readless but you did say that the villian is a right reg. I'd like to know his button opening % for sure but im going to make a wild assumption that this is something like A9,AT. Id be really interested to find out what he shows up with here, it will certainly tell you a lot about his play and how you can adjust.
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12-14-2012 , 07:41 AM
You can call and check/raise river depending on his sizing. He should fold the majority of his range, you can rep all kinds of boats and KT and there should be no bluffs in your range.
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