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07-14-2008 , 02:13 AM

krambanan

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Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 65

Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

MP1: $58.50
MP2: $57.95
CO: $50.00
BTN: $21.95
SB: $38.25
Hero (BB): $25.55
UTG: $27.80
UTG+1: $25.60

Pre Flop: Hero is BB with J

1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.25, MP1 calls $0.25, 4 folds, Hero raises to $2, 1 fold, MP1 calls $1.75

Flop: ($4.35) T

(2 players)
Hero bets $3.50, MP1 calls $3.50

Turn: ($11.35) Q

(2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $5, Hero folds

Fi: 31/7/3.47 Fold to cb 50 % and raise 50 % (pretty small sample thou) Tu AF: 5

Me: 11/9

I never know what to do here on the tu. Should I lead again and fold to a raise? Ch/f feels weak since I havent seen him fold to a cb yet. What do I do on the ri, if I lead tu, he calls and ri is a blank?

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07-14-2008 , 02:32 AM

Zenzor

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Call, could easily have a 10 here. 31VPIP's range is way too wide to give credit for a Q here, but I guess a fold isn't bad either though.

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07-14-2008 , 03:14 AM

v214

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i think a fold is bad. he could have a ten or ace high or all kinds of random nonsense.

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07-14-2008 , 03:28 AM

Leo19

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Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 963

Think I lead th turn, checking puts you in a tough spot when/if he bets.

If you lead and he raises you can fold your JJ pretty confident you were beat.

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07-14-2008 , 05:32 AM

Rubberneck

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I think I lead the turn, I also don't mind c/c the turn either, if you think he will fold all his Ts now. I probably never c/f the turn especially to the less then 1/2 pot bet, which looks like he was floating you and trying to pick up the pot here.

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07-14-2008 , 12:58 PM

krambanan

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Thanks for all the answers.

Yeah when I looked at the hand in retrospect it seemed really weak to fold. I should prolly have lead the tu for 7-8 dollars.

So say we lead tu for 8 dollars and he calls. What do we do on the river? If its a blank? If its and A? if the backdoor flush hits? Ch/c to induce on more bluff? Or bet for value?

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07-14-2008 , 01:06 PM

Teddie

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Originally Posted by krambanan

So say we lead tu for 8 dollars and he calls. What do we do on the river? If its a blank? If its and A? if the backdoor flush hits? Ch/c to induce on more bluff? Or bet for value?

check call. You wont get 3 streets of vlaue from anything you beat.

Alsso, why such a big raise pre? Your only bloating the pot with hand that can easily get you into trouble,especially when ur OOP. Just make it the standard 4xbb +1bb per limper pre.

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07-14-2008 , 07:28 PM

krambanan

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Originally Posted by Teddie

Check/call no matter what the ri brings?

Cos I was oop. I generally add 1 BB when oop. Sometimes I add 2 BB like here vs loose players.

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