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08-06-2014 , 12:08 PM
    Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 7 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    MP3: $25 (100 bb)
    CO: $23.13 (92.5 bb)
    BTN: $29.60 (118.4 bb)
    SB: $25 (100 bb)
    BB: $7.42 (29.7 bb)
    Hero (MP1): $25 (100 bb)
    MP2: $31.31 (125.2 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A K
    Hero raises to $0.75, 4 folds, SB raises to $2.25, BB folds, Hero calls $1.50

    Flop: ($4.75) A T 6 (2 players)
    SB bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50

    Turn: ($9.75) T (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $5.58, SB raises to $20.25 and is all-in, Hero ?



    Vil is a 14/11 af2,2 3bet5.3 3vs EP overall check-raise5

    no bluffs/no 10 right?..still a call?
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    08-06-2014 , 12:32 PM
    Meh, Im calling..
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    08-06-2014 , 01:20 PM
    If the T was a Club, then I think I would fold since there are no flushes to be made in that case. In this case, he can have FDs and FDs in combination with a gutshot. KQs, KJs and QTs are nice candidates for making this play I guess. A turned FH will probably not play this way, so you can discount AA, TT and 66 imo.

    But still, you called his 3bet and called a flop bet wich seems strong imo. Since he 3bets 5.3%, he will also bluff so that makes it possible for him to have a draw. He either has Tx or something like KQs, KJs, QJs, 98s, 87s, 76s. You're getting something like 2:1, so you need 33% equity against his range. If we add, along with those FDs I just mentioned, AT, KTs, QTs, JTs and T9s (wich all have you beat OTT), you only have 28% equity (I put in the numbers on Flopzilla).

    At first sight I would have called, but putting in those numbers make me think a fold is the best play (without any reads).

    I wonder what the outcome is of the hand...
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    08-06-2014 , 03:27 PM
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    Originally Posted by GilZ89
    If the T was a Club, then I think I would fold since there are no flushes to be made in that case. In this case, he can have FDs and FDs in combination with a gutshot. KQs, KJs and QTs are nice candidates for making this play I guess. A turned FH will probably not play this way, so you can discount AA, TT and 66 imo.

    But still, you called his 3bet and called a flop bet wich seems strong imo. Since he 3bets 5.3%, he will also bluff so that makes it possible for him to have a draw. He either has Tx or something like KQs, KJs, QJs, 98s, 87s, 76s. You're getting something like 2:1, so you need 33% equity against his range. If we add, along with those FDs I just mentioned, AT, KTs, QTs, JTs and T9s (wich all have you beat OTT), you only have 28% equity (I put in the numbers on Flopzilla).

    At first sight I would have called, but putting in those numbers make me think a fold is the best play (without any reads).

    I wonder what the outcome is of the hand...
    i think you put him on a very wide range here..his overall stats are nitty and he knows my EP open is quite strong with 10pfr from EP..his 3b vs EP is 3..i think QQ+,AQs+ is his range here if he had something else i would be pretty much surprised..his line though is confusing..his small 3bet size and flop bet followed by a massive turn shove seemed like bluff or nuts here so i checked his w$sd-55 and turn check raise-4...and ended up thinking that at best i am choping and folded..im not sure for my decision thought ..not at all
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    08-06-2014 , 03:48 PM
    If his range is so tight, he only reps 1 combo that beats us. Not folding vs 1 combo.
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    08-06-2014 , 03:57 PM
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    Originally Posted by qwertz1
    If his range is so tight, he only reps 1 combo that beats us. Not folding vs 1 combo.
    ..i know..still not winning much here..prob is a tie or lose spot??
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    08-07-2014 , 06:02 AM
    If he has all the AK and AA combos I guess it's a call, but you can stove that on your own.
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    08-07-2014 , 09:35 AM
    If his 3betting range vs your EP open is that narrow, we can explo fold pre.

    As played, we don't value much when we bet the turn. KK, AQ? Not even sure AQ 3bets pre in these positions.

    Easy check back ott. As played, fold.
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    08-07-2014 , 11:07 AM
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    Originally Posted by 2+8
    If his 3betting range vs your EP open is that narrow, we can explo fold pre.

    As played, we don't value much when we bet the turn. KK, AQ? Not even sure AQ 3bets pre in these positions.

    Easy check back ott. As played, fold.
    yea often fold pre..though couldnt resist to that 3bet size..came on pretty soft otf too..that maybe triggered my turn bet, a mistake of course..
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