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04-15-2008 , 01:42 PM
I dont wanna cry, but i just think i play my AA, KK really wrong, from 12dealt today i lost like 7(big pots) + won 5 small ones.

few examples:

Hand nr1 villain 29/12/2.8
bet turn? check - call river?
Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked

MP2: $24.40
CO: $5.00
BTN: $19.10
SB: $35.70
Hero (BB): $18.90
UTG: $26.00
UTG+1: $6.65
UTG+2: $5.10
MP1: $24.05

Pre Flop: Hero is BB with A A
UTG calls $0.25, UTG+1 calls $0.25, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.25, 3 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, 2 folds, MP2 calls $1.25
Flop: ($3.60) 6 J 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $2.75, MP2 calls $2.75
Turn: ($9.10) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks
River: ($9.10) T (2 players)
Hero bets $4, MP2 raises to $15, Hero calls $10.65 all in

Hand2 villain 38/31/1.5 70hands
Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
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UTG: $5.30
UTG+1: $20.55
MP1: $19.10
Hero (MP2): $19.05
CO: $24.65
BTN: $26.10
SB: $22.50
BB: $6.55

Pre Flop: Hero is MP2 with A A
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2.25, 4 folds, UTG+1 calls $1.75
Flop: ($4.85) 4 T J (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $2, Hero raises to $6.25, UTG+1 raises to $18.30 all in, Hero calls $10.55 all in
Turn: ($38.45) K (2 players - 2 are all in)
River: ($38.45) T (2 players - 2 are all in)

Hand3 villain: 22/3/2 about 30 hands
Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
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Hero (UTG+1): $18.85
UTG+2: $14.75
MP1: $38.95
MP2: $1.70
CO: $25.00
BTN: $26.25
SB: $28.30
BB: $25.25
UTG: $26.40

Pre Flop: Hero is UTG+1 with K K
UTG raises to $1, Hero raises to $2.75, 4 folds, BTN calls $2.75, 2 folds, UTG calls $1.75
Flop: ($8.60) Q 7 3 (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $5.50, BTN raises to $11, UTG folds, Hero raises to $16.10 all in, BTN calls $5.10
Turn: ($40.80) 9 (2 players - 1 is all in)
River: ($40.80) 4 (2 players - 1 is all in)
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04-15-2008 , 01:57 PM
hand 1) reload PF. Raise to 1.75 (4x +1bb for every limper) bet turn

Hand 2) reload PF standard after that

Hand 3) reload PF pf 3 bet is way too small raise it to 350+ standard after
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04-15-2008 , 02:15 PM
u mean rebuy to 25$? whats the plusses for that?

BTW, i have allways took to the table 20$ or (80%)
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04-15-2008 , 02:17 PM
Hand 1, raise a little more preflop..if you check the turn I prefer a c/c river line, you'll get a chance for villain to bluff. Also, villain would probably vbet a Jack as well. My default play would be to bet turn and then shove any river.

Hand 2, looks good
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04-15-2008 , 02:23 PM
you buy in full so you can have max implied odds. So when you hit your big hand you can get max value out of your opponents stack.. Implied odds are kind of important here at NL. Just look at how each villain owns you with them.

Of course you'll need to learn to fold top pairs and overpairs to preserve the stack when behind.
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04-15-2008 , 03:19 PM
BTW, winning small pots and losing big ones is standard for AA/KK. In deep stack poker, monster pairs only remain monsters pf. You want to win with them on the flop. You have an obvious hand. If villains don't think they can beat top pair when you show strength, they are going to fold in many cases.

Hand one is ok until the river. Check the river. The T only could hurt you. You'll have to decide what to do when he bets, but you would have lost less even if you called.

Hand two, call on the flop. You hope he has just top pair and will slow down.

Hand three, I'd call with a UTG raise of 10XBB. You're probably ahead, but the pot is already big enough without having more than a pair.
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04-15-2008 , 03:34 PM
OP: overplaying AA and especially KK was a problem for me too. For a while a couple of months ago KK was my worst hand loss wise (bring the weak jokes on ) and a terrible leak as I did not have enough discipline to lay it down. I often expected to be beat, but called anyways ("I have KINGS ffs"). Slowly but surely I got that under control.

Hand 1: I'd like a bigger raise pf and probably a potsized bet on the flop and a c/c on the river.

Hand 3: wouldnt be surprised if villain turns over aa or qq. that check-minraise screams strength and with 3% pfr AND a raise utg I expect to be beat on this flop. but you are pretty much committed, so hope for a split or aq (or a total donk move on his part^^)
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