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10-21-2008 , 02:24 AM
Villain 56/9 over ~30 hands, and has flatted open raises more than limped. Villain is only looking me up with a K and probably less of the time with a 7. Spewtastic shove or what?

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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BTN: $20.95
SB: $61.45
Hero (BB): $25.00
UTG: $35.00
CO: $25.95

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with 3 3
2 folds, BTN calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.25, BTN calls $1

Flop: ($2.60) K 7 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $2, BTN calls $2

Turn: ($6.60) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $4, BTN calls $4

River: ($14.60) K (2 players)
Hero bets $17.75 all in, BTN

ps flame away (oh and bet more on the turn?)
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10-21-2008 , 02:27 AM
All draws missed and you have no showdown value with 3-3 obviously. It's not that bad...
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10-21-2008 , 02:27 AM
you think he's just floating you on the flop and turn?

this is so spewy unless you've never even been caught bluffing before
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10-21-2008 , 02:30 AM
What hand do you think he calls the flop and turn with that now folds?
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10-21-2008 , 02:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by blocka
What hand do you think he calls the flop and turn with that now folds?
I was hoping he had a pair of some kind and didn't believe me that I had a K before, or a passively played 7 that might (could possibly) fold to the shove...
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10-21-2008 , 02:40 AM
People don't fold fullhouses ever. He is not folding a 7. I don't know if he is folding an ace. Shove is mehhhh, I think you could bet significantly less to get the same hands to fold. And frankly, I'm not a huge fan of it. I much prefer 3-barrel bluffing tags than donks, in general.
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10-21-2008 , 02:46 AM
Im trying to learn teh cash games but this seems really spewy to me. All K's call and so do all 7's.

Are people bad enough at these stakes to limp/call OTB with other pairs like 55, 88 and take said pairs to showdown on this board?
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10-21-2008 , 03:10 AM
With no reads and such a small sample the river bluff shove is GAMBOOL!

I like it!

And if you get caught bluffing here you will be seen as a Maniac and get people to pay you off later!
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10-21-2008 , 04:38 AM
i don't really like anything in this hand but the flop bet. bad turn and river to bluff. bad opponent to bluff. bad bet size on the end. i just don't like it.
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10-21-2008 , 04:50 AM
yr so close to potting the flop and river and he calls u down so and most of the tiem u only beat 22 and a bluff... i dont see a point of making him fold here since i think his pretty commited to the pot.

dont spew!
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10-21-2008 , 04:51 AM
IDK man, how loose has he been post-flop? Yeah, you're screaming K, but I need a read that he's a peeler before I pull something like this.
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10-21-2008 , 04:57 AM
Against a 56/9, this might be okay. I think he's calling you down to the river with gutshots and all this other crap, so his range isn't purely set for showdown when he calls the turn. If it was a TAG, I'd probably check/fold river, but fire 2 barrels as you did.

With the cards coming out as they did, I actually think you have a profitable 3 barrel bluff going here.


As a side note, I think you guys need some experience playing fishcakes. He's obviously calling down all Ks and 7s, but he's also peeling the turn with 89, T9, T8, 56 and all other crap. If you're willing to push the issue here, you can fire the 3rd barrel and expect to show a profit. Personally, I just check the flop and hope we can get to showdown.
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10-21-2008 , 10:10 AM
Kind of spewtastic, because you don't have many hands on him, and while he may be peeling the flop wide, he can't really peel the turn wide since even the worst donk knows he may be drawing dead at that point. So until you have better reads I'd just check and hope he checks back and see what he's calling 2 streets with. At least you get some info out of it, than if you make him fold, IMO, because some donks may even look you up with A high here.
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10-21-2008 , 11:03 AM
3 barrel bluff... but you're spewing money, man. if he folded, you were lucky.
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10-21-2008 , 04:00 PM
Villain had K9...so he didn't fold. He did tell me I had guts though, so that gave me the warm and fuzzies. Now my maniac image is set. Too bad I rarely see the same players at the micros...
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