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09-03-2009 , 04:25 PM

rbracco

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It is pretty early but villain seems donkish. Is raising this flop standard? Obviously the flop sucks but there are so many bad turns and I don't want to give a free card. What is our plan when we get 3bet?

Yes I know I shouldn't raise if I don't know what to do when I get 3bet, yes I suck at poker ty.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (2 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (SB) ($200)
BB ($212.50)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K

, K

Hero bets $6, BB calls $4

Flop: ($12) 9

, 8

, J

(2 players)
BB bets $8, Hero raises to $30, BB raises to $72, Hero???

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09-03-2009 , 04:28 PM

ArrrInnn

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fold and raise flop is std

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09-03-2009 , 04:33 PM

kaah

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I would probably shove then review the hand and come up with this range and realize it was a fold...

Board: 9s 8c Jc
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 29.602% 29.14% 00.46% 14425 228.00 { KdKh }
Hand 1: 70.398% 69.94% 00.46% 34619 228.00 { 99-88, AJs, AcTc, KcQc, QTs, J8s+, T9s, 98s, 7c6c, QTo, JTo }

What do you think this?

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09-03-2009 , 09:10 PM

rbracco

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Originally Posted by ArrrInnn

fold and raise flop is std

Raise folding here just seems bad though.

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09-03-2009 , 09:43 PM

Halfwitted

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Any reads? I'm shoving here as standard against weak opponents who will have one pair in their range.

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09-03-2009 , 09:52 PM

entrncdrnr

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We should be folding here for sure. We are either way behind or slightly ahead, as all the hands in his calling range will probably be pair/combo draws that have at least 40% equity and the other ones we are way behind. C/R flop is standard/good

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09-03-2009 , 10:12 PM

rbracco

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Originally Posted by entrncdrnr

I didn't c/r. I was original raiser and villain donked.

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09-04-2009 , 02:27 AM

eX3cution

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Get it in readless.

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Originally Posted by rbracco

Raise folding here just seems bad though.

Raise/fold is a viable option vs some passive fish

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09-04-2009 , 02:31 AM

Kardnel

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Ship it early. Close EV wise and you gain information.

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09-04-2009 , 02:51 AM

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jungleman

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flat flop, raising is too thin

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09-04-2009 , 03:35 AM

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Highbeem

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Originally Posted by jungleman

flat flop, raising is too thin

why?

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09-04-2009 , 02:34 PM

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dj604604

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 540

Because jungleman said so.
Hands leading this flop dont want to give a free card and our equity vs a bet 3bet is awful.
Curious what turn+ rivers you call though.
Being the terrible player I am I would call down lots for info and we have KK> club draws on the turn and decent Js going for value.

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