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10-15-2009 , 08:02 PM

adios11

grinder

Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 527

Opp is 62/8/6- no particular reads.

SB ($41.87)
BB ($20.34)
UTG ($20.61)
MP ($17.60)
Hero (Button) ($19.27)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q

, Q

2 folds, Hero bets $0.60, SB calls $0.50, BB calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.80) 8

, 7

, 2

(3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $1, Hero raises $3, 1 fold, BB raises $4, Hero calls $2

Should`ve shoved here.

Turn: ($11.80) 6

(2 players)
BB bets $14.74 (All-In), Hero calls $13.67 (All-In)
I doubt he would do this w flush- flop reraise was too weird. So it`s either set or two crazy pair.

Would you call here?

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10-15-2009 , 08:22 PM

epic7203

grinder

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 514

Not with "no particular reads". The worst turn card in the world just hit completing both draws and he's shoving into you. No way he's bluffing here and pretty much "bluffs" in his range for this board are going to be hands that actually beat you here (e.g., two pair, sets).

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10-15-2009 , 08:29 PM

EV+ Eevee

adept

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,188

Look to get it in on flop? Calling is terrible and pointless. Also HH looks a little messed up. As played urgh...fold...

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10-15-2009 , 09:31 PM

epic7203

grinder

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 514

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Originally Posted by EV+ Eevee

Look to get it in on flop? Calling is terrible and pointless. Also HH looks a little messed up. As played urgh...fold...

Yeah the flop amounts are definitely off and confused me.

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10-15-2009 , 09:38 PM

CaptainJJ

journeyman

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 226

looks like villian minraised to $5 not $4.

This is close. The overshove on the turn could be a set or 2pair or straight that doesn't want another diamond to peel.

V could have a flush here easily. he is 62/8 so he's obviously a massive fish so i wouldn't be thinking "his line is weird, it can't be a flush".

his range is pretty wide and he could easily have 2 pair/straight/flush/set. what do we beat? 99/TT/JJ/ pair+draw / flush draw (Adx).

I think we are well behind on the turn without outs so i would shove flop or fold turn as played.

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10-16-2009 , 01:17 AM

mb6tour

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 520

Shoving the flop against this guy is not good imo. He's a 60 soething VPIP with 6 AF so he's mostly bluffing everytime he bets and you don't want him to stop. You could have raised his flop bet a little more to induce a shove but doing it yourself is bad. After the turn brings the worst card it's still a call imo.

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10-16-2009 , 04:40 AM

secondguess

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,330

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Originally Posted by mb6tour

He's a 60 soething VPIP with 6 AF so he's mostly bluffing everytime he bets

How's that?

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10-16-2009 , 04:42 AM

Paddymctaff

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,627

hes a 60 vpip and aggro so is stacking off v light and u will both hate alot of turns so just get it in on the flop (and raise the flop more, just pot it)

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10-16-2009 , 02:05 PM

mb6tour

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 520

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Originally Posted by secondguess

How's that?

If you try to maintain a 6AF playing 62% of your hands you'll have to bluff a lot. Either that or you can just fold when you don't hit but that's an uncommon adjustment. You could also vBet very thin but that's essentially bluffing if nobody will call you with worse.

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10-16-2009 , 03:52 PM

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afdsxdos

centurion

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 159

I think you should have folded the turn that 6 hits hes range hard.
And if you are ahead you will face pair+FD

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10-16-2009 , 04:49 PM

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ChrisMintZ

adept

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 852

not even sur if i would call with Q of diamonds?

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