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12-30-2014 , 03:26 PM

andreig2012

centurion

Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 138

I thought he would 3bet AQ, AK, 99+, planned to fold to a shove. When he called i thought he had QQ AQ AK. Maybe i should have called the 3b but i didn't want to go to the flop OOP against his 3b range with this much behind.

No info on villain, i could have made a meta game decision - call the 3b and fold the flop if he shows aggression but i saw a lot of people willing to shove AK in position even if they miss.

Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #33680931

BTN: $2.51 (125.5 bb)
SB: $2 (100 bb)
BB: $2.84 (142 bb)
Hero (UTG): $2.05 (102.5 bb)
MP: $1.73 (86.5 bb)
CO: $2.60 (130 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J

Hero raises to $0.06, 2 folds, BTN raises to $0.21, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.58, BTN calls $0.37

Flop: ($1.19) 2

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.72, BTN raises to $1.93 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.75 and is all-in

Turn: ($4.13) 4

(2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($4.13) T

(2 players, 2 are all-in)

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12-30-2014 , 04:50 PM

FordPerfect

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Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 308

The range you assigned before the Flop looks reasonable, ppl usually get KK and AA in pre. But when he shoves OTF you can rule out AK/AQ I think. You 4b from UTG so you are basically repping QQ+ and AK - if he thinks this way at all, after all its still 2NL.

I would cbet a bit smaller which makes folding to a shove easier.

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12-30-2014 , 05:49 PM

samcx

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Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 4,305

4b'ing in these positions is asking for trouble. 4b/folding is turning our hand into a bluff needlessly, it's a spot to either call if he's an aggro 3better or can just make an exploitable fold in these positions till we know more about villain... w/e.

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12-30-2014 , 06:01 PM

andreig2012

centurion

Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 138

I thought my mistake was pre flop, but you make a valid point, after all i only put in 1/4 of my stack no need to lose it all.

Is CBet 50 / fold to shove ok? What if he calls the 50? (he's not spazzy or over agg IMO so it's a plausible scenario)

The way i see it now is CBet 50 as a bluff and give up (couldn't be called by worse, right?)

BTW, i might be over thinking a bit for 2NL but if we have a range of JJ+, AK, for making this play, his range of QQ+, AK can shove with 50% equity. If he has any FE he can shove his entire range profitably.

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12-30-2014 , 06:02 PM

eenvis

old hand

Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 1,366

yea if u dont want to play OOP against his 3bet range (I assume because his range is too strong), its very simple -- fold.

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12-30-2014 , 06:05 PM

andreig2012

centurion

Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 138

So folding JJ o a 3bet is ok... will do from now on, thanks.

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12-30-2014 , 06:19 PM

samcx

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Originally Posted by andreig2012

So folding JJ o a 3bet is ok... .

No not really, you can't just say that a general statement... it depends on lots of things such as who is 3b'ing you and positions etc. Like if you are on the button and a guy 3b'ing you on BB with a 3b% of 100% ofcourse folding would be terrible, but if a mega nit 3b's your UTG open continuing would be terrible. So it's totally scenario dependent.

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12-30-2014 , 07:07 PM

andreig2012

centurion

Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 138

I forgot to mention 'in spots like this', i know most plays are very situational.

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