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NL2 FR - KK against check raise NL2 FR - KK against check raise

01-10-2013 , 12:59 PM
Hello there again ! I had no read on any players at this table (just entered).

I'm thinking I should have made a bigger raise PF.

Are you calling on the flop or you will make another action ? If calling, what is your plan on later streets ?

Thank you, diss.

    Full Tilt, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #15328891

    MP3: $1.38 (69 bb)
    Hero (CO): $2 (100 bb)
    BTN: $0.80 (40 bb)
    SB: $3.89 (194.5 bb)
    BB: $1.68 (84 bb)
    UTG+2: $1.40 (70 bb)
    MP1: $2.88 (144 bb)
    MP2: $1.90 (95 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with K K
    UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls $0.02, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.10, BTN calls $0.10, 2 folds, MP1 calls $0.08, MP3 calls $0.08

    Flop: ($0.43) 4 6 J (4 players)
    MP1 checks, MP3 checks, Hero bets $0.30, BTN folds, MP1 raises to $0.72, MP3 folds, Hero




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    NL2 FR - KK against check raise Quote
    01-10-2013 , 01:03 PM
    Raise bigger pre obv to narrow the field but w/e. Snap call/3bet the flop. We have 50% equity against sets and just AJ alone without even accounting for spade draws and KJ/QJ-type hands.
    NL2 FR - KK against check raise Quote
    01-10-2013 , 09:44 PM
    it depends from V to V, but i`m going to go with the standard "given the fact that it`s 2nl" line and just jam the flop.

    you get calls from all draws, JT+, maybe even a smaller pp if V is complete donk.
    if you flat, you`ll more likely check turn and give V a free card.

    stove a range here.
    NL2 FR - KK against check raise Quote
    01-10-2013 , 09:46 PM
    I fold here, but that is just me.
    NL2 FR - KK against check raise Quote
    01-11-2013 , 08:47 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dovidiu
    it depends from V to V, but i`m going to go with the standard "given the fact that it`s 2nl" line and just jam the flop.

    you get calls from all draws, JT+, maybe even a smaller pp if V is complete donk.
    if you flat, you`ll more likely check turn and give V a free card.

    stove a range here.
    This!

    Also raise bigger preflop
    NL2 FR - KK against check raise Quote
    01-11-2013 , 09:49 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SammyG-SD
    I fold here, but that is just me.
    I demand an explanation. Hero has a ton of equity vs the typical 2NL villain's range. Please explain why folding is the best play here rather than just saying 'fold'.
    NL2 FR - KK against check raise Quote
    01-11-2013 , 10:06 AM
    I'm betting .12 -.14 pre.

    Readless (as op stated) I am getting it in here. There's a ton of aj kj hands that will call my shove.

    However if I know villain is any sort of a decent reg then the preflop limp is a big clue that a lot of his range is small/middle pocket pairs... since we are in position, I call and proceed with caution and try to see a showdown cheaply. Probably folding to a turn shove.
    NL2 FR - KK against check raise Quote
    01-11-2013 , 12:38 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SammyG-SD
    I fold here, but that is just me.
    Why folding here ? And would you do that even if hero would make "proper" PF raise ?

    I agree with everybody else here and I thank you for replies guys !
    NL2 FR - KK against check raise Quote
    01-11-2013 , 01:02 PM
    It is four players, we have 1 pair and really only have better one pair hands dominated. Going broke in big multiway pot with one pair is never a good idea.
    NL2 FR - KK against check raise Quote
    01-16-2013 , 12:28 AM
    I would bet bigger pre aswell.
    And yes, as someone already stated, it's 2NL so you got lots of draw-looking guys playing everything here,
    Going broke with cowboys on that board is not bad.
    I would jam it aswell when the guy reraises.
    NL2 FR - KK against check raise Quote
    01-16-2013 , 01:20 AM
    Need villain tendencies/stats here. Raises in multiway pots lean towards nutty hands.
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