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09-02-2018 , 08:05 PM
Villain is a bad reg even by NL2 standards, 34 AFq, 1/76 raise flop cbet. He 3bets a lot from the blinds and takes getting 3bet very personally. Should we lead the turn if assuming he can only have QJ or better? Lead for How much? As played do we jam river with 72BB behind or bet less?

Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (UTG): 102 BB
MP: 138.5 BB (VPIP: 27.11, PFR: 18.83, 3Bet Preflop: 10.02, Hands: 1,294)
CO: 101.5 BB (VPIP: 20.50, PFR: 17.63, 3Bet Preflop: 7.97, Hands: 1,552)
BTN: 26.5 BB (VPIP: 14.65, PFR: 12.45, 3Bet Preflop: 7.62, Hands: 279)
SB: 107.5 BB (VPIP: 25.06, PFR: 19.38, 3Bet Preflop: 7.33, Hands: 1,715)
BB: 37 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 2 A

Hero raises to 3.5 BB, MP calls 3.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (8.5 BB, 2 players) 5 J Q
Hero bets 6 BB, MP raises to 26.5 BB, Hero calls 20.5 BB

Turn: (61.5 BB, 2 players) 6
Hero checks, MP checks

River: (61.5 BB, 2 players) 8
Hero bets 43.5 BB
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09-02-2018 , 09:17 PM
I wouldn't raise 3.5x preflop here, or almost ever. 3x is really the biggest you should go.

Check the flop ap

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09-02-2018 , 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Rewdzx
Check the flop ap

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I agree. What would you do with a set here? I think you go for a check raise oop and then bet out ott.

Unless you're playing nl2. Then you bet flop, bet turn, bet river, as big as possible. Lead 30 ott, assuming you'll get called by anything that connects. Then shove river. He won't be able to get away from it if he has anything.
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09-02-2018 , 10:57 PM
Unless we never ever cbet I don't see how checking flop is good here

Last edited by afortiori; 09-02-2018 at 11:04 PM.
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09-02-2018 , 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by bailashtoreth
Unless you're playing nl2. Then you bet flop, bet turn, bet river, as big as possible. Lead 30 ott, assuming you'll get called by anything that connects. Then shove river. He won't be able to get away from it if he has anything.
Look at the stats he has on all the players. ACR 2NL is 25 or 50 NL on most sites. Max value lines against regs just because it's "2NL" implies lack of awareness.
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09-03-2018 , 08:14 AM
If you want to open A2s UTG, a smaller size like 2.5bb is better for a wide opening range.

Betting flop for about half pot with your lower ranked FDs should be ideal. You can check your better NFDs, but since AKhh and AThh would be combo-draws, you might even want to check-raise them, as balancers for QQ/JJ.

As played seems OK. I might even go bigger (possibly overbet) on the river, hoping villain has a set or top two.
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09-03-2018 , 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly
If you want to open A2s UTG, a smaller size like 2.5bb is better for a wide opening range.

Betting flop for about half pot with your lower ranked FDs should be ideal. You can check your better NFDs, but since AKhh and AThh would be combo-draws, you might even want to check-raise them, as balancers for QQ/JJ.

As played seems OK. I might even go bigger (possibly overbet) on the river, hoping villain has a set or top two.
What would you recommend for a standard TAG 15%ish UTG range? ACR raises to either 2.5x or 3.5x with the 1/2 and 3/4 pot buttons respectively and I find it easier to just click on those while multitabling. Right now I do 3.5x for UTG and MP, 2.5x for CO and 2x for BU. UTG and MP both about 15-17vpvip increasing to 35vpip on button. Should I be 3xing from some positions? Thanks for help.
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09-03-2018 , 08:42 AM
I typically use 2.5bb for all positions and I open 14 or 15% UTG. If you use 3.5x in that position, I'd be surprised if more than 10% is profitable, but I don't know your player pool, nor do I know what the rake is like on ACR. What does your heatmap/matrix look like if you filter by position? i.e. Are you actually profitable with almost everything in your opening range for that size?
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09-03-2018 , 09:04 AM
I only have a 50k hand sample total so I don't know how much the heat map matters, most of the hands show a profit/loss of within a buyin over 10-30 hands. My reasoning for the sizing comes from pre black friday when everyone said to open 4x UTG at 6max. The grinder's manual says 3.5x/3x/2.5x/2x. I figured my UTG range is roughly the same as MP and a lot tighter than CO so mind as well make it 3.5/3.5/2.5/2. Rake is "$0.01 for each $0.20 in Pot, capped at $3," so pretty high but there's rakeback. Player pool is standard micros with a lot of nitregs and some fishes. A lot of limpers including regs.
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