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11-16-2015 , 06:31 AM

Celerity

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WPN, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37166027

SB: $2 (100 bb)
Hero (BB): $2.03 (101.5 bb)
MP: $2.98 (149 bb)
CO: $2.61 (130.5 bb)
BTN: $2.03 (101.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9

2 folds, BTN raises to $0.06, SB folds, Hero raises to $0.14, BTN calls $0.08

I typically raise for .18 here, I think this was a misclick.

Flop: ($0.29) 3

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.14, BTN calls $0.14

I flop top pair and value bet. He had been stealing fairly wide during this session and I was liberally re-stealing.

Turn: ($0.57) K

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.36, BTN calls $0.36

When he calls the turn I think he has maybe AK or KQ that floated the flop and hit the turn toward the top of his range-- spiking the K on the turn makes me feel very safe value betting with top 2 pair, I think he's also calling with small pairs and raising two pair or a set.

River: ($1.29) A

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.61, BTN calls $0.61

The Ace of hearts on the river puts the flush draw out there, and possible that he has a better two pair with ace king. Where I'm unsure is how I played the river, could I have gotten more value by shoving, or does he fold to a shove thinking I was betting the flush?

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11-16-2015 , 06:48 AM

GeeeMonay

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I like betting 3 streets once you hit the king on the turn. Obviously we don't want to 3bet this pre as standard and with this I wouldn't be cbetting the flop. His range is gonna include some overpairs and you only have a 2street hand at this point.

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11-16-2015 , 07:21 AM

ursafenow

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Before you post these type of hands work on the high frequency spots such as preflop and flop decisions. Ask yourself or someone else whether you should be cbetting or check calling this flop. Make sure your preflop decisions are correct and consistent as they are far more important that river decisions.

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11-16-2015 , 07:46 AM

Holyherb

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Calling pre is better I think, his calling range is going to dominate you a lot. As played I'd probably triple as well, depending on what he's calling with. Probably bet river a bit bigger and fold to a raise.

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11-16-2015 , 08:41 AM

Celerity

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Thanks.

I'm now beginning to understand it's better to 3-bet with a more polarized range and just flat with medium strength hands.

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11-16-2015 , 09:00 AM

ursafenow

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Originally Posted by Celerity

Thanks.

I'm now beginning to understand it's better to 3-bet with a more polarized range and just flat with medium strength hands.

Just so you know it's an accepted strategy to 3bet merged from SB for a couple of reasons being; big blind can bluff squeeze profitably against wider ranges, if you are only 3betting for value and flatting with weaker hands. So instead of including value hands in your flatting range people 3bet with a merged range. Another reason by flatting it gives insane odds to BB to come a long with a wider range and if they are a good player it will hurt your EV. It's also good for our hand to take it down preflop rather than play a hand OOP. That said, it is fine to be flatting in SB at 2nl, because most of the time BB won't be a competent player and will not give you any trouble and if anything sometimes it's higher EV if a weak player on BB to come a long.

Yes 3betting with medium strength hands will just isolate you against stronger ranges and increase the times you are dominated.

Last edited by ursafenow; 11-16-2015 at 09:09 AM.

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11-16-2015 , 09:06 AM

Celerity

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Makes sense! Thank you

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11-16-2015 , 08:49 PM

NaZz68

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+ a stronger (merged) 3bet range is always good in sb vs late positions
because BTN should be flatting a lot of his range (eg JTs, QJs, KTs etc) if he is opening wide
which means he will be a lot stronger than you IP postflop if you 3bet complete trash

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11-17-2015 , 03:08 AM

Holyherb

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This is what I do in the BB if it helps (if I'm wrong I'm sure someone will point it out):

Choose strong hands that you will 3b. Usually JJ+,AQ+
Call with as many hands as you feel comfortable with. If I'm against BTN I usually call with my CO opening range.
Then 3b bluff with hands that play well but aren't in your calling range. So stuff like 86s, Q4s, 45s, J6s etc. (I would keep my bluffing range quite small at NL2 because players aren't likely to fold)

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11-17-2015 , 04:19 AM

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cashmoney111

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Originally Posted by Celerity

Thanks.

I'm now beginning to understand it's better to 3-bet with a more polarized range and just flat with medium strength hands.

Its all player dependant not I have K9s I am going to 3b. YOu have to figure out who to do it against. As for this hand I would of went for a check raise on the turn and jam river. Once the K comes off if he is drawing hes going to bluff here and if you raise he might just go with it anyways. In these kind of spots since we have K its unlikely he has one so I like to give them a shot at bluffing and if they do have one we will be playing for stacks on turn or river. So I think check raising the turn would of been the best option. Now if hes loose passive then I like your bet on the turn but in general if they are drawin out they will try rep the over card if you check.

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11-17-2015 , 04:44 AM

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btthywrsooted

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If you 3-bet here >>> Raise more! Good players will call super wide to this smallish 3-bet in position getting great odds...

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11-17-2015 , 06:21 AM

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NaZz68

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Originally Posted by Holyherb

Then 3b bluff with hands that play well but aren't in your calling range. So stuff like 86s, Q4s, 45s, J6s etc.

You'll be having a hard time postflop with Q4s and J6s when they flat you pre.

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11-17-2015 , 10:33 AM

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Holyherb

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Originally Posted by NaZz68

You'll be having a hard time postflop with Q4s and J6s when they flat you pre.

True, there does seem to be a lack of hands left to bluff with if you're calling a wider range though.

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11-17-2015 , 12:43 PM

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EC2200

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Originally Posted by NaZz68

You'll be having a hard time postflop with Q4s and J6s when they flat you pre.

Not really. Barrel FD's, check TP on the flop then play weak and fold to a lot of action if you don't pair your kicker. One and done bluff good boards that can't hit him hard when you miss. x/f otherwise. These are easy hands to play if you don't overvalue your pairs.

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11-17-2015 , 02:19 PM

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NaZz68

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Ok but then maybe rather choose J9s than J6s for more postflop equity

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11-17-2015 , 03:17 PM

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drakelol

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3b to 0.20 pre if you wanna 3b, though i would flat this hand
i think turn is a good spot to x/j (disregarding balance atm) since you block villains 9x and Kx and he will often have a fd he will b/c here and could turn stuff like small pairs into a bluff. As played, river is tricky, cant x/c and jamming will fold out almost everything since he probably folds 9x and doesnt double float with much if any Ax, and he rarely spikes the K since you block his bdfd Kx. I think x/f is good

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