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09-20-2015 , 09:21 AM

alejup

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Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 40

Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $2 (100 bb)
Hero (BB): $2.07 (103.5 bb)
UTG: $1.28 (64 bb)
MP: $3.28 (164 bb)
CO: $3.46 (173 bb)
BTN: $1.56 (78 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4

2 folds, CO calls $0.02, BTN calls $0.02, SB folds, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.07) A

(3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, BTN bets $0.03, Hero raises to $0.11, CO folds, BTN raises to $0.40, Hero raises to $2.05 and is all-in, BTN calls $1.14

Turn: ($3.15) 8

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($3.15) 2

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

Spoiler:

is my allin ******ed? I lost my whole buyin here... opp is 32/0 so probably not very good

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09-20-2015 , 09:33 AM

grinder4all

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Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 1,792

Fold the river, villain has a full house.

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09-20-2015 , 09:36 AM

alejup

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kinda hard if I went all in on flop

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09-20-2015 , 09:39 AM

Nirwanda

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You're not unique in getting your money in with the nuts and losing. This is not threadworthy, c'mon shape up.

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09-20-2015 , 09:41 AM

Ruin

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Not ******ed. Lol "fold River". Not even close. Gii every time. Villain got lucky here.

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09-20-2015 , 09:44 AM

FreddyTheFish

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Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 570

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Originally Posted by alejup

is my allin ******ed?

Yeah, if you think getting money in as 82:18 favourite is ******ed. So you shouldn't go allin preflop with AA too, you are same 82:18 against underpair.

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09-20-2015 , 09:58 AM

grinder4all

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Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 1,792

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Originally Posted by alejup

kinda hard if I went all in on flop

Look I'm tired of these excuses people like to give for not folding the river when they're clearly beat. Quit being a station, once that 2 rolls off all you have is a bluffcatcher, you need to fold it.

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09-20-2015 , 10:02 AM

alejup

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are you joking?

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09-20-2015 , 12:02 PM

Shamway99

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Originally Posted by grinder4all

Read history, the hand went AI otf.
I would prefer lead flop as this is limped pot. And ofc gii with nuts is good for you, never mind to loose sometimes.

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09-20-2015 , 12:09 PM

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alejup

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it doesn't really make a difference if I x/r or bet here, does it?

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09-20-2015 , 12:21 PM

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Nirwanda

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Of course it does, x/raising looks stronger and will get more money in the middle, but by leading you eliminate the risk of flop checking thru.

I would have thought that difference would be obvious to anyone playing poker.
Are you asking questions just to ask questions?

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09-20-2015 , 12:41 PM

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alejup

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With 2 players I assumed someone will bet and I wanted more money in the middle, because I had the best hand.
if i bet and he folds that's ok, but with x/r (and his fold) I get more money and if it checks through I can still make a bet on turn, because it was unlikely to me that any card beats me on turn.
that's why I don't really see what works in favor of betting, in this case difference was 0.03 I could get if he folded to my c/r, that's why I said it doesn't really make a difference here. But of course I know general difference between x/raise and bet. so could you point where I'm wrong in my reasoning?

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09-20-2015 , 01:18 PM

#13

Killme37

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Terrible river. Gotta lay it down

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09-20-2015 , 02:14 PM

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Markulous

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Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 4,530

I usually lead out here...but are you really questioning getting your money all in on the flop with the nuts? Sorry he outdrew you but you're going to win this over 80% of the time.

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09-20-2015 , 02:49 PM

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grinder4all

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Originally Posted by Shamway99

Read history, the hand went AI otf.
I would prefer lead flop as this is limped pot. And ofc gii with nuts is good for you, never mind to loose sometimes.

You read the hand history, villain has a boat on the river, and a boat beats a straight. What happened on the flop is irrelevant right now, as soon as that 2 pops up hero needs to snap fold. It's learning how to fold obvious second best hands like these that separate the 1bb/100 rake back grinders with 8bb/100 crushers.

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09-20-2015 , 03:02 PM

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alejup

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I couldn't fold river because if you go allin on one of the previous streets, you gotta wait for showdown. that is the rule of poker. If I want to fold river I must not go allin before, so maybe you got an idea what would be the best on flop?

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09-20-2015 , 03:06 PM

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Markulous

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Originally Posted by alejup

LOL.

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09-20-2015 , 03:16 PM

#18

FreddyTheFish

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Originally Posted by alejup

what would be the best on flop?

x/c flop, x/c turn and x/f that river. If you still have nuts on river then donkshove obv. Easy game.

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09-20-2015 , 03:20 PM

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alejup

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thanks!

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09-20-2015 , 03:33 PM

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Markulous

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Originally Posted by grinder4all

Honestly, he should have just folded pre even though it was a limped pot. These are just trap hands in the BB.

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09-20-2015 , 03:35 PM

#21

alejup

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so despite possibility to check I should just fold? You all are just trolling me.

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09-20-2015 , 04:32 PM

#22

grinder4all

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 1,792

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Originally Posted by alejup

so despite possibility to check I should just fold? You all are just trolling me.

Look dude...you post a hand where you flop the nuts, get all the money in...and ask whether it was correct? The thread invites trolling because there's no reasonable discussion to be had on the hand. It's like asking whether your preflop all in with AA was right because villain had QQ and hit his set.

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09-20-2015 , 05:15 PM

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alejup

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alright, freddy's post was reasonable and involved different play so chill

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09-20-2015 , 05:59 PM

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SligoFella

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Fold pre.

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09-21-2015 , 01:15 AM

#25

VantACoo-key?

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Originally Posted by grinder4all

This, of course.

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