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nl16 KK squeeze and top set oop vs reg in dry flop nl16 KK squeeze and top set oop vs reg in dry flop

10-09-2014 , 01:32 PM
PokerStars - $0.16 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

http://www.handconverter.com/hands/2589838

BTN: 137.06 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 50.00, Hands: 2)
SB: 17.38 BB (VPIP: 42.86, PFR: 9.52, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)
Hero (BB): 101 BB
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 22.09, PFR: 19.27, 3Bet Preflop: 6.38, Hands: 1,125)
MP: 110.81 BB (VPIP: 23.36, PFR: 17.29, 3Bet Preflop: 10.11, Hands: 219)
CO: 133.56 BB (VPIP: 20.02, PFR: 16.63, 3Bet Preflop: 5.93, Hands: 875) AF 2,8, steal 33, co open 30 (13/43), fold 3bet 50% (4/8), fold cbet 20%(1/5), wts 22, wsd 63
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Ks Kd
fold, fold, CO raises to 2.5 BB, fold, SB calls 2 BB, Hero raises to 11.88 BB, CO calls 9.38 BB, fold

Flop : (26.25 BB, 2 players) Kc 9s 7h
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn : (26.25 BB, 2 players) 4s
Hero bets 12.5 BB, CO calls 12.5 BB

River : (51.25 BB, 2 players) Jh
Hero checks, CO bets 34 BB, Hero raises to 76.63 BB and is all-in, CO calls 42.63 BB
nl16 KK squeeze and top set oop vs reg in dry flop Quote
10-09-2014 , 01:40 PM
What's the question exactly?

Can't say I like your line overly. Do you check flops often when 3bet? I can see why given dry board, but still he has a low % fold to cbet stat.

Not sure why you'd check river. Sure he bets, but would think long-term this would only lose you value. Similar with small turn bet.

If he got there with 108...
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10-09-2014 , 04:05 PM
He hardly folds to cbets, so I would cbet and ch/jam the turn. I don't think he will vbet the river that often, so I don't really like your line.
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10-09-2014 , 06:20 PM
generally I do not think such a player makes call to squeeze even IP with QTs or T8s. he has small fold to cbet and the first thing comes to my mind is the cbet, but I thought that if he has K, he will fold because of big pot. fold to cbet also may not contain any sample of 3bet pots. I did not look this detail. The pot has grown more than just a 3bet pot, and I flop nuts and I just thought I'd get the value in turn and river leaving him to catch something and showing a little weakness in the flop. I don't like the check on the river now that I see it again. I just thought it would bet thin even with almost air. Eventually he had JJ. For cbet the flop, however, still not sure. Generaly I cbet 3bet pots around 60%. Thanks for answers. I think I played the hand bad in long term.
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10-10-2014 , 06:36 AM
lol it's nl16 you can't discount QT or T8 from his range just cuz you 3bet pre.

gotta say though, don't discount lower sets. this is a snap with a dance and a twist. flop is a cbet though.
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10-10-2014 , 08:42 AM
I think your flop check is fine/good

Would go bigger on turn and jam river, probably still overbet jamming as played
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10-10-2014 , 10:11 AM
hand is well played until river

b/c 18bb. jamming river is worst option by a large margin
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10-10-2014 , 01:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Blonde
b/c 18bb. jamming river is worst option by a large margin
oops!
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10-10-2014 , 01:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TWhelan
oops!
wasnt meaning to shoot you down by any means but i think if you consider his range a while longer it should make some sense
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10-10-2014 , 02:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Blonde
wasnt meaning to shoot you down by any means but i think if you consider his range a while longer it should make some sense
No I know that's not what your intention was. Was more saying oops because I thought a bit more and your post makes sense. Probably a spot where I have been automatically doing bad stuff, so ty for identifying a probable leak!
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10-10-2014 , 07:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Blonde
hand is well played until river

b/c 18bb. jamming river is worst option by a large margin
Really? To me it seems like we should play this hand the same way he would expect us to play QQ. Betting small both turn+river is a possibility. But I would
either cbet (many players auto cbet Kxx with any hand) and then c/c turn. Or Check both flop and turn.
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10-10-2014 , 07:30 PM
I think is ok to slowplay on the flop. But on the turn and river you have to get all the money in.
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10-10-2014 , 07:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by luis_leonpro
I think is ok to slowplay on the flop. But on the turn and river you have to get all the money in.
We are expected to bet air on the flop. Betting big OTT and OTR makes no sense after checking flop. We aren't doing with air nor with a medium strength hand. Basically only hand people do that is what we have.
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10-10-2014 , 08:15 PM
Why no cbet! Bet big ott, he raises you jam.
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