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NL10z - missed value otr? NL10z - missed value otr?

08-26-2016 , 01:21 PM
He doesn't really have any 7x in his range, and Q or better he would bet otr I suppose...

I wasn't sure so I checked otr, but now I am not sure the other way

Thanks for your opinions guys

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 124.5 BB
SB: 205.9 BB (VPIP: 21.74, PFR: 17.39, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)
BB: 107.9 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
UTG: 31.3 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
MP: 117.9 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
CO: 98 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J J

UTG raises to 3.5 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 10 BB, SB calls 9.5 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (24.5 BB, 2 players) Q 5 9
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (24.5 BB, 2 players) 7
SB bets 8.8 BB, Hero calls 8.8 BB

River: (42.1 BB, 2 players) 7
SB checks, Hero checks

SB shows A K (One Pair, Sevens)
(Pre 43%, Flop 24%, Turn 14%)
Hero shows J J (Two Pair, Jacks and Sevens)
(Pre 57%, Flop 76%, Turn 86%)
Hero wins 40.2 BB
NL10z - missed value otr? Quote
08-26-2016 , 02:01 PM
It couldn't hurt to stick in a 15BB river bet. I can see a lot of villains betting 9x and weak PPs ott after you miss your cbet, and those hands might X/C a small bet. I don't expect you to get check raised by a worse hand here ever.

Other than that, WP.

Last edited by drewd; 08-26-2016 at 02:06 PM. Reason: EDIT: Didn't see SB cold called your 3bet. I guess he probably doesn't have many 9x or weak PP. Bet otr might be too thin
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08-26-2016 , 03:55 PM
Id flat pre in this spot, but i dont think its bad to 3bet. I dont think you miss value on the river, its very hard for SB cold calling range to pay except for exactly TT. And as said above it should be a small bet.


Theres still a small chance that villain is slow playing, so it can be a bluffing oportunity for him if he senses weakness, so id prefer a check back.
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08-26-2016 , 04:43 PM
can exploitably bet 1/3 pot
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08-28-2016 , 03:52 PM
If there is a hand to check back flop it's gotta be JJ.
And yeah bet river for thin value 15 bb like above poster says
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