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11-15-2018 , 06:18 PM

Iblis

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PokerStars Zoom, Hold'em No Limit - €0.05/€0.10 - 6 players
Hand delivered by Upswing Poker

UTG: €10.00 (100 bb)
MP: €8.28 (83 bb)
CO: €2.29 (23 bb)
BU: €13.44 (134 bb)
SB (Hero): €10.78 (108 bb)
BB: €5.99 (60 bb)

Pre-Flop: (€0.15) Hero is SB with Q♣ A♣
3 players fold, BTN raises to €0.35, Hero 3-bets to €1.10, 1 fold, BTN calls €0.75

Flop: (€2.30) 3♣ T♥ A♦ (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: (€2.30) T♦ (2 players)
Hero bets €1.35, BTN raises to €3.80, Hero calls €2.45

River: (€9.90) K♦ (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets €4.70, SB (Hero) folds

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11-15-2018 , 06:19 PM

Iblis

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I ****ed up the title, correct it mods please.
It's a line check anyway.

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11-15-2018 , 11:23 PM

Fleetttt

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why are you doing?

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11-16-2018 , 12:24 AM

.isolated

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You have much better hands to x flop with. Like A2s and A4s-A9s. There's no reason to check a hand as strong as AQ here. I'd fold turn as there's a decent probability (from villain's perspective) that you have Tx. River is an obvious fold.

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11-16-2018 , 04:00 AM

ChipsNcrisps

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im confused why we arent betting the flop but betting ott when a terrible card hits?

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11-16-2018 , 06:38 AM

Iblis

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Yep, seeing it now I'm amazed at how much ****ty I played this hand. X flop makes no sense, so does betting turn.

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11-16-2018 , 11:00 AM

mahsjdi

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Yeah check worse Ax if you wana x the flop, turn needs to be a x for obvious reasons and fold river.

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11-16-2018 , 12:55 PM

Fleetttt

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Dunno why everyone is dissing the turn bet. He's gonna have underpairs and worse Ax to call. I'm definitely betting it.

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11-17-2018 , 10:08 AM

mahsjdi

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Originally Posted by Fleetttt

Dunno why everyone is dissing the turn bet. He's gonna have underpairs and worse Ax to call. I'm definitely betting it.

Checking a flop that is good for you and betting a turn that is bad for you doesn't make any sense.

By you I mean your range btw.

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11-18-2018 , 08:32 PM

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Fleetttt

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Originally Posted by mahsjdi

Checking a flop that is good for you and betting a turn that is bad for you doesn't make any sense.

By you I mean your range btw.

Who cares?

He checked the flop, which I agree is a big mistake, but as played we can definitely bet for value.

I also don't agree it's bad for our range. We can have Ax that checked flop, also maybe AA sometimes. Don't think villain has an absolute abundance of Tx in his range given most people fold offsuit Tx pre most ott. We can 3bet some Tx ourselves so it's like, whatever.

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11-20-2018 , 01:41 AM

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miniwini95

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Join Date: Oct 2018 Posts: 44

SB 3bet range shouldn`t really have much less Tx in their range than BTN calling range.

As played i also don`t mind betting turn as there are many worse hands that will call. I think oop we have to fold against the xr ott though as we will have to fold otr a lot.

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11-20-2018 , 04:12 AM

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TheGull

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Originally Posted by Fleetttt

Given flop action, I think the 'deception' route is now best and so another check is in order, as villain has just a ton of weaker aces and straight draws which may attempt to take the initiative here given our passive/weak line. On the other hand a lead out on the turn invites positionally aware players to raise here with all sorts of holdings, both speculative and real. Obviously leading the flop is by far the best line, but given the way it's played out, I think we have to continue with the passive line.

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11-20-2018 , 10:30 AM

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Fleetttt

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Originally Posted by TheGull

Well, there's 2 problems with this.

1. They might check back draws and just take a free river

2. If they do bet turn with draws and Ax, it will likely be for 1 bet, which we get by betting turn and also can get a 2nd bet otr vs Ax and potentially even xc to get another bet vs draws when we bet turn ourselves.

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On the other hand a lead out on the turn invites positionally aware players to raise here with all sorts of holdings, both speculative and real. Obviously leading the flop is by far the best line, but given the way it's played out, I think we have to continue with the passive line.

People are not gonna raise here very much, unless they are very aggressive. It's certainly reasonable for us to have plenty of bet/calling hands, especially at these stakes because people do some really silly stuff, like bet/calling KK (which of course might be good in some cases

) or even sillier etc.

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