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(NL100) 2nd pair in a 3bet pot. (NL100) 2nd pair in a 3bet pot.

09-30-2009 , 06:00 PM
Villain plays 71/68 from the button and 67/9 OOP.
He tends to be very passive and defends to 3bets quite often (F3bet 44%).
His AF is 1.3 over 300~ hands.
The villain is also a bit stationy.

Is this line ok or would you play it different. Villain doesn't raise semibluffs, so I guess I could bet the flop, but I figured I would get more value this way.
Is my line ok here? I know my hand is face up, but I don't really care, since the villain is a drooler. Should I bet less on the river (Blocker bet)?


How would you play these against different opponents?
Should I check river against certain opponents?





Full Tilt Poker $100.00 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (BB): $109.00
BTN/SB: $166.70

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with K Q
BTN/SB raises to $3, Hero raises to $10, BTN/SB calls $7

Flop: ($20.00) K A 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB checks

Turn: ($20.00) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $15.00, BTN/SB calls $15

River: ($50.00) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $32.00
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09-30-2009 , 06:09 PM
Is he passive enough that he won't bet a missed draw on the river?

I think the combination of 2 missed FDs and that he might not bet all Ax hands makes the river a c/c.

I like the turn bet size, tho i MIGHT make it even a little bigger.
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09-30-2009 , 06:15 PM
whoops didn't realize we were the three bettor. Okay that changes things. I'm always betting flop here and probably barreling the turn. If we are called on the turn then I'm checking the river. C/c'ing the river is okay. A lot of the times i see people checking back the flop with hands like a9-aq for pot control, and just call down to avoid getting trapped. That being said, I like making my bet sizing a lot smaller. That way we avoid totally value cutting ourselves when he shows up with an ace here and it also allows us to still get value from weaker K's

Last edited by ScootinAroundTown; 09-30-2009 at 06:21 PM.
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09-30-2009 , 06:15 PM
He probably will bet the river as a bluff w/ missed FD about 50% of time, but I'm not sure
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09-30-2009 , 06:45 PM
bet check check if he is stationary.
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09-30-2009 , 10:18 PM
i play it the same way.

i don't think it's worth it to cbet flop, it's an AKrag board... not much he can call me with, except for a fd (and if i start protecting vs a fd i should bet turn too...)

and i don't think i should build the pot or go for 3 streets of value (basically all in) with second pair vs a passive player. (who could trap me with an A).
and there aren't many cards i'm scared off, the only overcard is already on the board.

i'd rather check flop and bet turn and most rivers hoping he picks up something...
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09-30-2009 , 10:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pasterbator
Is he passive enough that he won't bet a missed draw on the river?

I think the combination of 2 missed FDs and that he might not bet all Ax hands makes the river a c/c.

I like the turn bet size, tho i MIGHT make it even a little bigger.
+1
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10-01-2009 , 08:57 AM
Lol there is so much value in a flop bet here since he is stationy and doesnt fold to 3bets. Any Kx hand and a lot of flush draws (and worse pairs). Same for turnbet. River i would checkfold or checkcall a non spade card (except if river is a K or Q of course), depending on how much he bets missed draws and how light he valuebets, and checkfold a spade.
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10-01-2009 , 11:28 AM
i think if he's passive and a station i prefer bet/bet/check to check/bet/bet but i haven't really decided if it matters yet. im kinda concerned about him calling with broadway gutters, or having the action killed by a third spade or something.
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