PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: $10.38
BTN: $9.85
SB: $8.12
Hero (BB): $10.00
UTG: $10.50
MP: $10.00

SB posts SB $0.05, Hero posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has T T

fold, fold, CO raises to $0.40, fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.20, CO calls $0.80

Flop: ($2.45, 2 players) 7 Q 8
Hero bets $1.40, CO calls $1.40

Turn: ($5.25, 2 players) 8
Hero checks, CO bets $1.40, Hero ???

why 3 bet pre? are you planning to stack off? stats?

Bet the turn yourself, unless you think this guy floats excessively in which case you wouldn't be posting the thread.

3-bet for value, don't planning to stack off pre. One of first hand on this table, villain is unknown.

Just flat then if you don't intend shoving over a 4bet. You have no reason to believe he calls 3bets too often.

Don't 3 bet an unknown OOP with a hand that you will have no idea how to play postflop most of the time.

Hey dhnotimba,whats up dude,sisten to me please.
3bet there vs co 100% with TT for value,fot turn we need some stats imo.You can bet again for value i think,put his on range stove it and see!

^lol

FFS this is why you don't 3 bet that.
Because you have no idea what to do post flop on most runouts.
It's not that I don't like 3 betting. Just 3 bet when you have some idea what is going on and what you are going to do when called.

^^^upload your flat spot with TT when co open,prob pll crush you hand.BB can squezze and co outplay you.I dont even think if you can beat nl10 bwt

To MartimC that

yes so start plat jj and qq as well,wtf with that forum?

^i can beat 10NL lol more than once bro
and if you start just 3 betting this pairs "for value" and folding to 4 bets, the times you get called you will not have the skills to play them profitably OOP postflop
it's not the question that if you are ahead of his range or not(stove part) but you making him fold a lot , 4 bet AK and better hands and call and play a flop IP with hands that have a great equity vs TT, and outplaying you it's much more easier in 3 bet pots

what's the problem with that?

There is some difference between TT and QQ in preflop equity against a typical getting it in range but there is a huge difference in postlop playability OOP against an unknown.
You yourself wrote:

"ot turn we need some stats imo.You can bet again for value i think,put his on range stove it and see! "

We aren't going to have an overpair OTT with TT very often. In fac this board is one of the best you can hope for. And still you haven't a clue how to proceed. You are asking for stats that we don't have. Putting an unknown there on any kind of range is hard. Stoving it impossible and has almost nothing to do with the hand.

Against many passive players that call wide and are passive post turn is just c/f.
Against some floaters it's c/c. Can't really see a reason for betting against anybody. Somebody would have to have only PPs in their calling range to bet this for value and you can't really bluff out anything besides JJ.

And then there is still the river left.
Playing second or third pairs OOP in a bloated pot isn't fun.

dh might not be imba but warden certainly is

TT and QQ are quite different when 3-betting. Most opponents will at least call with JJ, if not 4-bet with the intention of calling a shove.

The same with AQ, most opponents will call or 4-bet it, and QQ does a lot better against it in both situations.

Of course, if the opponent only plays back with the range of AA, KK, AK then it makes no difference, but that's only the small minority of cases.

Isn't this a contradiction? If you do not plan on stacking off PF, then your 3bet with TT is not for value.

Agree with flat pre vs an unknown if you are folding to a 4bet or unsure about postflop. You can 3bet pre vs some players but it should usually be a 3bet for value/5bet semibluff type scenario.

I would x/c flop personally I think, or x/c turn after betting flop. Don't think we can vbet twice but we could turn into a bluff I guess..

She is not